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Old 11-21-2010, 01:52 PM
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I'm sure this has been covered many times, but I'm a bit search engine challenged and can't find what I'm looking for. I have a good light load for cast bullets. What I'm looking for is your favorite powder for 240 grain jacketed bullets.
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W296/H110, followed by 2400.
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2400 is My choice,It's the 1st & Only powder I have used in the .44 Magnum It worked for Me so well that I never tried anything else.
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W296/H110, followed by 2400.
This is pretty much the general consensus. I use H110 with great results.

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H110 for max loads, 2400 if you want to slow them down a bit. You can't reduce H110 loads by much.

I've used these 2 for many years with good results.

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I've only ever used WW 296 for full-snort .44. Love the stuff though.
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Thanks for the responses. It would be a lot easier if you'd all agree, however.
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I've only ever used WW 296 for full-snort .44. Love the stuff though.
296 / H110.....same powder.

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2400 dont take long to go threw a pound at 21 gr a pop
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296 / H110.....same powder.
They weren't way back when I started loading.
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Another vote for H110.
It is a slow burning powder and will produce some nice flames.
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If you are going to put a lot of rounds through a revolver, I like 4227. Easier on the gun.
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Here is a vote for one more good choice, AA#9. Meters like a dream, can be downloaded a bit, uses standard primers, consistent velocities.

Only ever used 1lb of 2400, several H110 & W296 (same powder), and now a bit of Lil' Gun.

Lil' Gun will give better velocity with much less pressure. That being said, I only use it in my Marlin 1894 rifles in this caliber. I shoot nothing but jacketed in them and it works like a champ. 240gr XTP @ 1850fps! Takes hogs and rams out easily. I have friends that are taking deer locally with their 240gr JSP Marlin loads with good consistency and terminal ballistics.

This is for all full bore stuff.
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I like H-110 as it completely fills the case.
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Either 2400 or H110. I like 2400 a little better only because I can reduce it a bit more and magnum primers are not called for. If you use Win LPP then it doesn't matter.
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I do have a stock of these.
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Another vote for H110/win296.

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What ever is most accurate in that particular handgun with that particular bullet. H-110, W-296, 2400, AA9 all have given me excellent accuracy depending on the bullet and the handgun.

In my experience there is no such thing as one powder that will do it "all".

Be it a slow powder or a fast one.
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What ever is most accurate in that particular handgun with that particular bullet. H-110, W-296, 2400, AA9 all have given me excellent accuracy depending on the bullet and the handgun.

In my experience there is no such thing as one powder that will do it "all".

Be it a slow powder or a fast one.
Right on!!! I'm just looking for a place to start. Thanks to everyone for the help. Greg
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2400 is my favorite for .44 Magnum. I have always had good results with it.
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I prefer 2400 and the gas checked version (senior moment) of the 429421 at 250 grains, or slighty heavier, for max or slightly reduced loads in the 44 Mag, mostly 'cause Elmer SAID use it.

All but two of the 44s I've kept over the years (four 629 Smiths, three Model 29 Smiths, several Rugers, and 1 Anaconda) have liked 9.9 grains of W231/429421s for most of my .44 Mag use. This load's penetration still amazes me.

However, I keep H 110 around for heavy 300 grain gas-checked cast bullet loads in 45 LC and 454 Casull loads and don't hesitate to use it in stout 44 mag loads if I'm low on 2400.

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I do have a stock of these.

Well then, 23 to 24 grs of H110 and the Win large pistol primer with a jacketed bullet will give you some real barn burners!

What bullet (s) do you have?
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Yep, WW296 is good for big flamethrower loads. Also. I'm another AA#9 fan.

2400 or Blue Dot is good if you want to back off a little, but if I'm throwing real 44 Mags loads out there then WW296 is it.
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I'm surprised I don't see more here about Blue Dot. I expected there would be at least a few using it.

In my own case, I rarely shoot full-charge 44 Magnums any more but if I did, I would load up some test loads with both H-110 and 2400 are see what my current lots of powders are doing for variation using my brass and primers. I am finally starting to be able to buy Federal 150 primers again, which are my all-time favorite large pistol primers for everything from .45 ACP target loads to top-end 44s. Getting a fresh supply is a welcome relief.
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I still have some Blue Dot and have used it for full house Magnums in 357 and 44. It works well at max loads. At the lower end it spits powder, dirty and inconsistent. But use for max loads it's pretty good.
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I reach for H 110 for .44 Magnum and jacketed bullets.

I once worked through a series of loads using various powders worked up to the 1978 Sierra manual's listed maximum. They were chronographed in my long-barreled 8 3/8-inch Model 29. H 110 gave the best results. Sub-maximum charge weights of H 110 yielded higher velocities than the other powder's maximums.

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240 Grain Sierra JHC, Max*/H110: MV 1542 ME 1267 ES 25
" ", Max*/W296: MV 1510 ME 1215 ES 49
" ", Max*/Bluedot: MV 1461 ME 1135 ES 28
" ", Max*/AL8: MV 1430 ME 1090 ES 30
" ", Max*/2400: MV 1419 ME 1075 ES 71
" ", Max*/Unique MV 1246 ME 841 ES 32
" ", Max*/IMR4227 MV 1238 ME 817 ES 18


180 grain Sierra JHC, Max*/H110: MV 1814 ME 1316 ES 62
" ", 2.3 grains under Max*/H110 MV 1757 ME 1049 ES 40
" ", Max*/W296 MV 1766 ME 1247 ES 49
" ", Max*/BlueDot MV 1762 ME 1241 ES 33
" ", Max*/AL8 MV 1694 ME 1147 ES 54
" ", Max*/2400 MV 1620 ME 1049 ES 81
" ", Max*/Unique MV 1548 ME 946 ES 37

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I've used H110 for many years - started with 2400 which worked fine, also. Most of my loads center around 285 grain GC Hard Casts @ max velocity.
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H110/296. 2400 also works well.
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H110/296, Enforcer, 2400, AA#9. LilGun is pretty good too. I like Enforcer the best.

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I have only used 2400, quite happy with it.
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Well then, 23 to 24 grs of H110 and the Win large pistol primer with a jacketed bullet will give you some real barn burners!

What bullet (s) do you have?
I have several different cast bullets I've been shooting. I was thinking of picking up some 240 grain JHP. Midway has a decent price on Magtech bullets.
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I do not see anything decent for Magtech?? The Hornady XTP's are excellent bullets and very accurate
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Another vote for 4227. It meters well and shoots straight. It fills the case which means you'll never double charge a round.
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I'm surprised I don't see more here about Blue Dot. I expected there would be at least a few using it.

In my own case, I rarely shoot full-charge 44 Magnums any more but if I did, I would load up some test loads with both H-110 and 2400 are see what my current lots of powders are doing for variation using my brass and primers. I am finally starting to be able to buy Federal 150 primers again, which are my all-time favorite large pistol primers for everything from .45 ACP target loads to top-end 44s. Getting a fresh supply is a welcome relief.
I have tried Blue Dot with various bullets and several charge weights (within the limits of published data) and I've had poor results in .44 Magnum. It was very dirty, bullets tumbling and entering the paper sideways, and just generally unplesant to shoot.

I'm not trying to show any disrespect to anyone who uses Blue Dot successfully in .44 Mag loadings, but I've had poor results with it. During the time I experimented with Blue Dot in .44 Mag, I had only one gun in that chambering, a 7-1/2" Redhawk. (Perhaps that gun just doesn't like the taste of it.)

I have had fantastic results with Blue Dot in .38 Special loads. The best .38 group I've ever shot was a 158g Tennessee Valley lead SWC over 6.5g Blue Dot.

Like I said, maybe my Redhawk just hates the stuff... I also load a lot of .38 Specials with a 148g DEWC over 3.2g Bullseye. It is a great low powered target load in everything EXCEPT my buddy's 4" Diamondback. The Diamondback shot a 10" group @ 50 feet with that load yet grouped great with Winchester factory ammo.
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In my revolvers with Jacketed bullets, I use H110/W296. In the carbines, I like IMR4227.
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I have used quite a bit of Vihtavuori N-110 and have gotten great accuracy as well as high velocity. Load density is virtually 100% and this powder meters great in either my Culver type powder measure or my Dillon. I have had better accuracy results with Federal magnum pistol primers vs. Winchester WLPs.

This powder is not usually carried by local gun shops, so check the online suppliers, namely Midway, Grafs or Sinclair.

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Always had best accuracy with 240 gr jacketed, Sierra or Hornady, and an "Elmer" charge of 2400 ignited by CCI mag lp primers - which is now a footnote in history, as too hot. Worked for me and gave scoped Ruger NMSBH 50 yard groups nicely under 2 inches.

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H110 and 240 grain Hornady XTP is a match made in heaven in my Super Blackhawk. Fantastic mule deer load...
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Win 296 and H110 for sure.
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For full power loads I use WW296 or H110 for reduced loads, especially with cast bullets I use Unique. AA#9 also works well.
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I'll add a third vote for 4227. You should use magnum primers, but it does it's burning in the barrel, not at the muzzle-although you wouldn't know that if fired at night)
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