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Old 12-27-2010, 08:41 PM
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i recieved some rainiers 115 gr. plated bulltets for christmas.i want to load these with unique. i have no loading data on plated, or lead bullets in 115gr. i would like to know if anyoneon the forum can give me any info. on this bullet? i am loading it for a glock 26. i have never loaded any plated bullets before. any comments,info, or advise of any kind good or bad would be appreciated. i forgot these are 9mm. i know this is the place for help. thanks. scooter-2 happy new year to all
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Old 12-27-2010, 08:56 PM
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Load them like FMJ bullets and keep the velocity below 1250 fps (not really an issue with this cartridge). Don't go crazy with the crimp, just a normal taper. Some say to use jacketed load data, others say to use cast bullet data. Personally I use jacketed data and expect my velocity to be a little lower. I run plated in 9mm at 1100 fps and they are excellent, accurate bullets.
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Alliant powder lists a MAX of 6.3 grs of Unique for the Speer Gold Dot 115. Your plated I am guessing is a RN so your OAL will be different. I would start at 90% of 6.3 or 5.67 (make it 5.5)

Speer #14 lists for THEIR 115 FMJ RN 5.6 to 6.3 grs Unique at 1.135 OAL.

So for plated bullets, I use the low to mid range of FMJ data.

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Call or e-mail Rainier and they will give you the data for the powder you want to use.
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Just go to the Rainier website, the info you need is there. Click on "Loading Data" at the top left.

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Just go to the Rainier website, the info you need is there. Click on "Loading Data" at the top left.
The "Loading Data" doesn't link doesn't go anywhere. There is no loading data on their website. However, I just ordered and received 1000 180 grain bullets from them. I sent an e-mail to them requesting data and received a nice reply:

Mark, let me know what powder you want to use and if we have any load data on that powder I’ll be happy to send you the information. Also, you can use jacketed bullet load data to load our bullets. I know the website says use lead, but you can use jacketed in the absence of lead data or if you just want to use jacketed. We do not recommend starting with the max charge on jacketed load data, however, so if you want to start at the maximum charge, please reduce it by 10% (the maximum charge) and try a few rounds to see how they perform. With all that being said, let me know the powder and I’ll give you all the info we have.
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I have loaded plated 115 gr. bullets for 9mm and my advice is to be very careful with how much crimp you apply. These are very short bullets without much bearing surface and with any amount of excessive crimp they will be squeezed down to the point that they will not touch the bore. At this point they will be good for making noise and not much else. Apply just enough crimp to remove the flair of the case mouth.

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I shoot tons of 9mm .45 ACP and 38 Spl. plated bullets as my range requires them, and here's what I do.

Lead data is completely safe to use from starting through max.

Jacketed data can be used safely if you reduce max loads by 10%. Of course that means jacketed data starting loads are fine as listed.

This is pretty much what Rainier recommends.

I also agree in not overdoing your taper crimp for best auto pistol headspacing and bullet to barrel fit.

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Don't know what kind of dies you are using, but don't go by the RCBS instructions that say seat and crimp in the same stroke. If you do, you will push up a ridge in plated bullets in front of the case crimp and prevent cartridge from chambering properly. That's the reason for Lee's 4 die set that seat and crimp in separate operations. Or, as I do with 3-die sets, find your crimp setting for the die; then back off one turn and set the seater plug for proper length. Seat all the rounds. Then, back off seater plug, turn die down that one turn and crimp the shoulder. The extra step is worth it.
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