Transporting Gun Powder Across State Lines ?

[Rollbar]

We will be moving to Florida from Nevada and I have about 1.50lbs of gun powder for reloading left in the room.

I have read about private vehicles but we will be renting a Ryder truck. We also have ammo.

Just not sure.

Thanks,
Jim

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CODE FOR THE MANUFACTURE, TRANSPORTATION STORAGE, AND USE OF EXPLOSIVE MATERIALS NFPA NO. 495-1992.

CHAPTER 10. SMALL ARMS AMMUNITION AND PRIMERS, SMOKELESS PROPELLANTS AND BLACK POWDER PROPELLANTS

10-3. SMOKELESS PROPELLANTS

10-3.1 Quantities of smokeless propellants not exceeding 25 lb (11.3 kg) in shipping containers approved by the U.S. Department of Transportation may be transported in a private vehicle.

10-3.2 Quantities of smokeless propellants exceeding of 25 lb (11.3 kg) but not exceeding 50 lb (22.7 kg), transported in a private vehicle, shall be transported in a portable magazine having wood walls of at least 1-inch (25.4 mm) nominal thickness.

10-3.3 transportation of more than 50 lb (22.7 kg) of smokeless propellants in a private vehicle is prohibited.

10-3.4 Commercial shipments of smokeless propellants in quantities not exceeding 100 lb (45.4 kg) are classified for transportation purposes as flammable solids when packaged according to U.S. Department of Transportation Hazardous Materials Regulations (Title 49 Code of Federal Regulations, Part 173.197a), and shall be transported accordingly.

10-3.5 Commercial shipments of smokeless propellants exceeding 100 lb (45.4 kg) or not packaged in accordance with the regulations cited in 10-3.4 shall be transported according to U.S. Department of Transportation regulations for Class B propellant explosives.

10-3.6 Smokeless propellants shall be stored in shipping containers specified by the U.S. Department of Transportation Hazardous Materials Regulations.

10-3.7 Smokeless propellants intended for personal use in quantities not exceeding 20 lb (9.1 kg) may be stored in original containers in residences. Quantities exceeding 20 lb (9.1 kg) but not exceeding 50 lb (22.7 kg), may be stored in residences if kept in a wooden box or cabinet having walls of at least 1-inch (25.4 mm) nominal thickness.

10-3.8 Not more than 20 lb (9.1 kg) of smokeless propellants, in containers of 1 lb (0.45 kg) maximum capacity, shall be displayed in commercial establishments.

10-3.9 Commercial stocks of smokeless propellants shall be stored as follows:

Quantities exceeding 20 lb (9.1 kg), but not exceeding 100 lb (45.4 kg), shall be stored in portable wooden boxes having walls of at least 1-in. (25.4 mm) thickness.
Quantities exceeding 100 lb (45.4 kg), but not exceeding 800 lb (363 kg), shall be stored in nonportable storage cabinets having walls of at least 1-in. (25.4 mm) thickness. Not more than 400 lb (181 kg) may be stored in any one cabinet, and cabinets shall be separated by a distance of at least 25 ft (7.63 m) or by a fire partition having a fire resistance of at least 1 hour.
Quantities exceeding 800 lb (363 kg), but not exceeding 5,000 lb (2268 kg), may be stored in a building if the following requirements are met:
The warehouse or storage room shall not be accessible to unauthorized personnel.
Smokeless propellant shall be stored in nonportable storage cabinets having wood walls at least 1-in. (25.4 mm) thick and having shelves with not more than a 3 ft separation between shelves.
No more than 400 lb (181 kg) shall be stored in any one cabinet.
Cabinets shall be located against walls of the storage room or warehouse with at least 40 ft (12.2 m) between cabinets.
Separation between cabinets may be reduced to 20 ft (6.1 m) if barricades twice the height of the cabinets are attached to the wall, midway between each cabinet. The barricades shall extend at least 10 ft (3 m) outward, shall be firmly attached to the wall, and shall be constructed of 1/4-in. (6.4 mm) boiler plate, 2-in. (51 mm) thick wood, brick, or concrete block.
Smokeless propellant shall be separated from materials classified by the U.S. Department of Transportation as flammable liquids, flammable solids, and oxidizing materials by a distance of 25 ft (7.63 m) or by a fire partition having a fire-resistance of at least 1 hour.
The building shall be protected by an automatic sprinkler system installed according to NFPA No. 13, Standard for the Installation of Sprinkler Systems.
Smokeless propellants not stored according to (a), (b), and (c) above shall be stored in a type 4 magazine constructed and located according to Chapter 6.
Reprinted with permission from NFPA 495-1992, Code for the Manufacture, Transportation, Storage and Use of Explosive Materials, Copyright 1992, National Fire Protection Association, Quincy, MA 02269. This reprinted material is not the complete and official position of the NFPA on the referenced subject which is represented only by the standard in its entirety

[Argonnakid]

Great job,

[HorizontalMike]

Great information!

Just getting into reloading and buying quantity supplies to save on total costs. Ordering 32lb (16lb of each powder type for two calibers) and this will help me plan and build and locate appropriate storage containers/lockers on my property. Sounds like I may build TWO storage units and place in two different buildings.

Thanks again!

[CatboatWilly]

That was very informative. Thanks for researching and posting.

[Rollbar]

Thank you-Use to live in Broward County-grew up in Dade. Moved North to Ft.Pierce, Inverness, Bama then Nevada.

Heading back to Tarpon Springs around March

[Rollbar]

Understood-I was not sure about using a RENTED vehicle etc and maybe having to go over the DAMN on my way back to the Salt Life

[smith17]

" I have about 1.50lbs of gun powder for reloading left in the room."

Rollbar, you're almost out!

[Rollbar]

Originally Posted by smith17

" I have about 1.50lbs of gun powder for reloading left in the room."

Rollbar, you're almost out!

PLEASE SEND SOME NOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooW

HELP !

[fyimo]

When I moved to Colorado to Arkansas I moved my ammo, primers and mostly full cans of gun powder in my Blazer when I moved. On the cans that were nearly empty I used them to fertilize my grass. Today with the situation on getting powder I would have brought all the powder.

[aphelion]

The gas in the tank of the vehicle transporting the powder is far more dangerous, but who worries about that?

[model70hunter]

1.5 LBS is only an issue if one is leaving your current residence and headed to an altered state of mind....

When we lived in the big city we asked the 15 year old neighbor girl to put the lab up at night and feed him once when we had to be out of town for 3 days. We gave her the garage door opener to get in.

About 10 minutes after she put the lab up her Dad saw our garage door was open. The neighbors were nice but both had terminal dingyness. They discussed it and decided to call the police in to check the house. Mr Dingy went with them. ????? If a rabid serial killer psycho was in there with a tommy gun he would have been done in just as easily as if he'd checked himself. And gee was the dog barking hysterically in the house? No. He told me the two PD guys stopped and looked at my reloading bench, they made comments, I had lots of powder on shelves next to the bench.

Mr. Dingy did not understand what they were discussing. Idiot.

For a while I wondered if the feds would show up for 5 or 10 1 pound tins and one 8 LB tin. They never did. Idiot, we took the lab with us after that or if we were flying we put him in a kennel.

[Rollbar]

Just wondering due to some check points I went through to get here/radar detections etc.
Just wanted to make sure.


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[Law-dog]

There are some tunnels and dams around the country that have signs posted prohibiting "explosives", whatever that is. I cant recall where, but I think Hoover Dam is one. My suggestion is you get on the net and check each highway route you are taking. They have designated hazmat routes for trucks. I think Interstate 10 through Mobile Alabama is one such tunnel. I also recommend a couple of things. 1. Nobody is going to search your vehicle unless they have a reason/probable cause. 2. The most likely reason for you to have your car searched is an auto accident. My suggestion is to pack the powder in styrofoam bubble wrap. Then pack it in a lockable box or suitcase. If you are in an accident, you car/truck and everything in it will be hauled away to some lot. Police will inventory everything in it, but they will not break a lock without probable cause. And pack your primers totally separate. They are the most dangerous thing you will be hauling. Ammo is no big deal, but again, put some padding around it. And as you know, keep all the guns in cases and out of sight and unloaded. Goofy people tend to report it if they see a bunch of guns, a hassle you dont need. I am both a retired cop, attorney, and prosecutor and dont think you have much risk if you just pack it well and lock it up. Have a safe trip....the wind is 50 mph today here in Oklahoma.....so you might wait a day or so....

[Rollbar]

Ok thanks-maybe I should just load the rest and not worry about it

[lebomm]

I wouldn't think that a pound-and-a-half of powder would be much of a problem. Seems like it would comply easily with the regulations.

Larry

[Rollbar]

Agreed Larry but you know how things are in today's world. You are guilty b-4 innocent and they freak over 50 rounds.


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[vipermd]

Originally Posted by aphelion

The gas in the tank of the vehicle transporting the powder is far more dangerous, but who worries about that?

Have you ever seen a gas tank "blow-up" other than tv/movie?? I have watched cars burn ( 4 ) and the tires do bang a bit when they blow. The gas will burn , but the tank should not blow. Pinto?

Rollbar- You are moving away from Ca, good for you, as long as you stay away from DC you should be fine!! NV is a great state just too close to feineswine/pelousy. Have a safe trip.

[aphelion]

Originally Posted by vipermd

Have you ever seen a gas tank "blow-up" other than tv/movie?? I have watched cars burn ( 4 ) and the tires do bang a bit when they blow. The gas will burn , but the tank should not blow. Pinto?

That was my point.

[Rollbar]

Originally Posted by vipermd

Have you ever seen a gas tank "blow-up" other than tv/movie?? I have watched cars burn ( 4 ) and the tires do bang a bit when they blow. The gas will burn , but the tank should not blow. Pinto?

Rollbar- You are moving away from Ca, good for you, as long as you stay away from DC you should be fine!! NV is a great state just too close to feineswine/pelousy. Have a safe trip.

Yes moving away to preach in Fla.

Only thing is, in Fla I can't Open Carry my Kimber CDII .45acp

I do have a CCW and I will get one in FLA

[vipermd]

Originally Posted by aphelion

That was my point.

SORRY: I misread it and added things ( explosion) from my mind. Apologies, totally agree with you. Be Safe,

[ChuckS1]

Don't make this hard. Just put it in the truck out of sight.

[NJM15]

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[Rollbar]

Originally Posted by ChuckS1

Don't make this hard. Just put it in the truck out of sight.

You are not understanding why I'm asking.

1. Rental vehicle

2. Radar/truck scans along the hwy/at stops etc.

Just want to make sure in today's frame of mind.

Thanks again,
Jim