Smith & Wesson Forum

Advertise With Us Search
Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > Ammunition-Gunsmithing > Reloading

Notices

Reloading All Reloading Topics Go Here


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #51  
Old 07-08-2011, 05:09 PM
thedane thedane is offline
Member
.45 Colt Nickel Plated Case Warning .45 Colt Nickel Plated Case Warning .45 Colt Nickel Plated Case Warning .45 Colt Nickel Plated Case Warning .45 Colt Nickel Plated Case Warning  
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 277
Likes: 0
Liked 48 Times in 10 Posts
Default

I just received a letter from Remington.

"We believe that the nickel plate peeling may be related to a problem with a washing step prior to the plating process. The surface finish on the brass wasn't fully prepared to hold the nickel plating. Both a wash and a surface traetment are part of the plating preparation"

They are going to send me a check for $35.00. I think that's fair since I only sent back less than 50 cases.

Hope this is of some interest.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #52  
Old 07-08-2011, 08:54 PM
Rule3's Avatar
Rule3 Rule3 is offline
Member
.45 Colt Nickel Plated Case Warning .45 Colt Nickel Plated Case Warning .45 Colt Nickel Plated Case Warning .45 Colt Nickel Plated Case Warning .45 Colt Nickel Plated Case Warning  
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Florida
Posts: 22,082
Likes: 10,795
Liked 15,509 Times in 6,796 Posts
Default

That's good to hear that they admitted a problem and took care of it. That's the only way they know of a problem if customers tell them.
__________________
Still Running Against the Wind
Reply With Quote
  #53  
Old 07-08-2011, 10:41 PM
NiklasP NiklasP is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 292
Likes: 0
Liked 11 Times in 9 Posts
Default

Loading 45 Colt for about 15 years, only one bullet ever gave consistently small groups for me in different revolvers, very soft lead swaged 255 grain, 0,455 diameter bullet that Remington has made forever.

The soft lead 255 grainer worked very well through throats from 0,452 to 0,454 and bores from 0,451 to 0,454. Just about any powder in amounts giving standard velocities (600 to 900 fps) gave respectable to excellent groups with this bullet. I quit buying all other 45 caliber bullets for revolvers.

I suspect that excessive splitting of 45 Colt cases is partly, even heavily, related to chamber sizes, which can be very generous on 45 Colts. Each revolver I used had very consistent chamber diameters, smallest on a R&D 45 Colt conversion cylinder and largest on Ruger -- and range brass was often even larger. Brass was trashed when it became too work hardened (happened quickly) or when it split, and lots split, especially after 5 or more loadings. I attributed rapid work hardening to generous chamber diameters in all but the R&D conversion cylinder -- my resizing dies just barely sized the brass small enough to drop into the R&D cylinder.

I too got rid of all my 45 Colts, and now mostly shoot a 44-40 Ruger and various 357s. 45 Colt was the least satisfying cartridge to load, over about 50 years of reloads, including 32-20 and 44-40, both often considered a pain to reload.

Niklas
Reply With Quote
  #54  
Old 07-08-2011, 11:29 PM
Reloader Fred Reloader Fred is offline
Member
.45 Colt Nickel Plated Case Warning .45 Colt Nickel Plated Case Warning .45 Colt Nickel Plated Case Warning  
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 128
Likes: 0
Liked 21 Times in 9 Posts
Default

I didn't see anyone suggest IMR Trail Boss for the .45 Colt, so I will. It's proven to be very accurate for me in this caliber. It's not meant to be a barn burner in the velocity department, but it is accurate with cast bullets. I prefer a 200 gr. RNFP for my .45 Colts, and it's accurate when combined with Trail Boss.

Hope this helps.

Fred
Reply With Quote
  #55  
Old 07-14-2011, 09:22 PM
Groo01's Avatar
Groo01 Groo01 is offline
Member
.45 Colt Nickel Plated Case Warning .45 Colt Nickel Plated Case Warning  
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: central ohio
Posts: 1,385
Likes: 949
Liked 826 Times in 488 Posts
Default

Groo here
One of the most accurate shells I shot was the old rn lead
CCI alu case 45 colt... Not made now..
Try Hornity 250 gr lead RN with a good dose of Unique.. 8 to 9 gr
Reply With Quote
  #56  
Old 07-17-2011, 10:20 AM
TSQUARED TSQUARED is offline
Member
.45 Colt Nickel Plated Case Warning .45 Colt Nickel Plated Case Warning  
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Michigan, USA
Posts: 2,260
Likes: 2
Liked 115 Times in 85 Posts
Default

I load a lot of 9mm, 38 Special, 40 S&W, 44 special, and 45 ACP using both normal brass an nickel plated cases. Over the years i have noticed that nickel lated brass does not have the longevity of normal brass cases. There is a greater tendency for case splits which appears more frequently with Remington brass but does also occur with Winchester and Federal brass. I had one batch of 357 magnum R-P nickel plated cases in which ca. 5 to 10% would split upon each reloading.
Reply With Quote
  #57  
Old 07-17-2011, 04:43 PM
Nemo288's Avatar
Nemo288 Nemo288 is offline
Member
.45 Colt Nickel Plated Case Warning .45 Colt Nickel Plated Case Warning .45 Colt Nickel Plated Case Warning .45 Colt Nickel Plated Case Warning .45 Colt Nickel Plated Case Warning  
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Badgerland
Posts: 2,373
Likes: 558
Liked 1,497 Times in 787 Posts
Default

I recently got a couple hundred Starline nickel .44 special cases.
As I started to size them after the first reload I noticed that
the nickel seems to gall a little on the carbide die. I broke down
and lubed the cases lightly and man, what a difference. After
polishing the die with some JB bore compound (more of a cleaning;
I don't think anything short of diamond dust will cut the carbide),
everything went very smoothly.
This is the first time I have ever used lube with a carbide die.
The Starline cases seem quite a bit thicker than others especially
near the base.
If you are experiencing scratches on the nickel give some lube a try.

---
Nemo
Reply With Quote
  #58  
Old 07-17-2011, 07:04 PM
Hondo44 Hondo44 is offline
SWCA Member

.45 Colt Nickel Plated Case Warning .45 Colt Nickel Plated Case Warning .45 Colt Nickel Plated Case Warning .45 Colt Nickel Plated Case Warning .45 Colt Nickel Plated Case Warning  
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: California
Posts: 19,248
Likes: 11,903
Liked 20,594 Times in 8,582 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ronnie gore View Post
i had a lot of federal 32 mag. brass that would crack 3/4s the way down on the first reload, the brass was made when the cartidge first came out, i switched to starline and never had any more problems, this brass was nnot nickle plated.
I had the same problem. A complaint to Federal revealed that it was a known issue with the early 32 mag Fed brass. Apparently it was not properly annealed at the factory. They were actually recalled
and subsequent brass ever since has been fine.
__________________
Jim
S&WCA #819
Reply With Quote
  #59  
Old 06-11-2014, 09:03 PM
Allen-frame's Avatar
Allen-frame Allen-frame is offline
Member
.45 Colt Nickel Plated Case Warning .45 Colt Nickel Plated Case Warning .45 Colt Nickel Plated Case Warning .45 Colt Nickel Plated Case Warning .45 Colt Nickel Plated Case Warning  
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Florida,South,hell.
Posts: 2,781
Likes: 143
Liked 2,499 Times in 368 Posts
Default 3 Year old thread on 45 Colt ( Remington nickel brass)

Bumping this one to the top for all of you loading 45 Colt today.

Lots of good info here .


Good luck

Allen frame
__________________
NRA cert.instructor&R.S.O.
Reply With Quote
  #60  
Old 06-11-2014, 10:04 PM
Hondo44 Hondo44 is offline
SWCA Member

.45 Colt Nickel Plated Case Warning .45 Colt Nickel Plated Case Warning .45 Colt Nickel Plated Case Warning .45 Colt Nickel Plated Case Warning .45 Colt Nickel Plated Case Warning  
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: California
Posts: 19,248
Likes: 11,903
Liked 20,594 Times in 8,582 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BUFF View Post
I never buy Remington brass or loaded ammo unless it is in a caliber nobody else makes, like .350 Rem Mag, .22 Rem Jet or, formerly, .45 Auto Rim.
Buff,

I have a box of loaded W.R.A. 45 ACP Auto Rim. I was very surprised. Just FYI, not trying to be picky, few know that it was also loaded by Winchester.
__________________
Jim
S&WCA #819
Reply With Quote
  #61  
Old 06-11-2014, 10:42 PM
SMSgt's Avatar
SMSgt SMSgt is online now
Member
.45 Colt Nickel Plated Case Warning .45 Colt Nickel Plated Case Warning .45 Colt Nickel Plated Case Warning .45 Colt Nickel Plated Case Warning .45 Colt Nickel Plated Case Warning  
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Florida
Posts: 6,617
Likes: 3,395
Liked 9,267 Times in 3,483 Posts
Default

I reload Rem brass all the time with no issues. I never acquire enough plated brass of any brand to bother reloading.
Reply With Quote
  #62  
Old 06-12-2014, 05:08 PM
Nemo288's Avatar
Nemo288 Nemo288 is offline
Member
.45 Colt Nickel Plated Case Warning .45 Colt Nickel Plated Case Warning .45 Colt Nickel Plated Case Warning .45 Colt Nickel Plated Case Warning .45 Colt Nickel Plated Case Warning  
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Badgerland
Posts: 2,373
Likes: 558
Liked 1,497 Times in 787 Posts
Default

Those of us who load and shoot the 444 Marlin are stuck with Remington brass.
Oddly, this particular case has a very good reputation and is used for all sorts of wildcats.
Many experts praise the strength of this brass.
I have never had a problem with it but also don't go thru it the way I do other 44 rounds.

===
Nemo
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
357 magnum, 44 magnum, 45acp, bullseye, cartridge, colt, commercial, hardening, hornady, leather, model 25, model 625, mountain gun, postwar, rcbs, remington, ruger, saa, sass, silvertips, starline, titanium, winchester


Posting Rules
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
SOLD:Please Close - Colt Detective Special Nickel 1976 .38SP Presentation Case $850 L1A1 GUNS - For Sale or Trade 0 01-03-2015 12:46 PM
Nickel plated 25-5, Presentation Case (?) gatekeeper S&W Revolvers: 1961 to 1980 1 10-20-2014 01:14 PM
SOLD>>Looking to sell a Colt Lawman Mark III nickel plated 2" snub. RalphMP9FS GUNS - For Sale or Trade 1 05-30-2014 09:59 PM
WTB Nickel Plated 45 Colt & 454 Casull brass 29aholic WANTED to Buy 0 03-04-2011 03:19 PM
WTB: 45 Colt Nickel Plated Brass HEAD0001 WANTED to Buy 3 01-08-2011 12:27 AM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:36 PM.


Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)