I was just wondering if anybody else has the same problem I have, getting Berry's 124 grn. PHP to feed in their 9mm Sigma? Or any any other pistol for that matter? I have no problems with Rainer's 115 grn., haven't tried the 124 grn Rainer's yet.

I use Berry's 124 grain as well as 115 in my S&W 3913 and no problems whatsoever. I've been loading Berry's for a couple of years and they run fine. Give them a call, they are very pleasant to work with and may have some advice on the problem. Good luck.

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Any particular reason you chose the HP bullet, over the 124gr RN profile?

What COAL are you using?

No problem with feeding Berry's 124 HP in the M&P9C, the 3954, or the 5906. Can you give us your specs? Powder, load, Overall length?

I am trying to work up a two-fold load, one that I can use for SD, and to be able to use at the range for target practice, due to their relatively low cost. I have tried different coal, but to no avail.

I have'nt shot them yet, I started with 6.0 grains of HS-6, I made up about 10 of them, and tried to hand cycle them, but most of them hang up on the feed ramp, a couple would go into batttey. I used a factory 9mm to set the first coal, and tried a couple other coal's, but to no avail.

I guess I should mention why I decided to try Berry Bullets, when Rainer's already work for me. Ok so I'm getting cheap, the two online reloading suppliers I deal with, one sells Rainer's and the other sells Berry's. The one that sells Berry's has awesome shipping rates. Ok and the other was the availabilty of the Berry's.

Look at precision delta's FMJ prices.

I run them in my Beretta and never had a problem of any kind.

Well without your OAL it's near impossible to tell why they will not feed. I and others have shot thousands of them (yes even the HP) Have you taper crimped them?

Hand cycling also is not a valid test as it does not deliver the force of recoil and return to battery.

Do you have calipers? What is your finished OAL?

Have you taken your barrel out of the gun and dropped a dummy round in it? Does it "plop" in and fall out when turned over??

Using a factory round as an example is not the best practice, it is not the same exact bullet, shape etc..

On another side note you can buy them direct from Berry and if over $50 shipping is included.

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Answers:
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Of course you can't duplicate the recoil force by hand, but you can tell the if the feeding process is gonna work if you don't ride the slide, or lock the slide back and then hit the slide release.

I do a have caliper, but I did not measure yet.

Yes & Yes

Just use it as a starting point, and adjust from there.

I already checked out their wesite, but I don't order in that quantity until I know for a fact that the bullet will work in my gun.

Well, without a OAL not much more I can help you with. Other than powder charge it's the most important thing if not more important.

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I'm not familiar with the Sigma, but I will say that the CZ pistols have a much shorter freebore than lets say a Beretta M9, and the users have to seat the bullet deeper than normal to account for that. If it is freebore you can mark the bullet in a loaded round with a sharpie and chamber it from a mag, eject the round and look for marks left by the lands on the nose. The CZ loaders have seated the bullets down deeper than other brands of FP's

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