Smith & Wesson Forum

Advertise With Us Search
Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > Ammunition-Gunsmithing > Reloading

Notices

Reloading All Reloading Topics Go Here


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 10-12-2011, 05:28 PM
Doug.38PR Doug.38PR is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Backwoods Louisiana
Posts: 763
Likes: 210
Liked 285 Times in 113 Posts
Default Midway bullets

I can't seem to find an actual reloading manuel from Midway. Yet I have .357 and .38 spl. bullets from Midway. I have speer and hornady manuels. Where can I get reloading data approved for the midway bullets? (manuels say to only use bullets made from said company who wrote manuel)
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 10-12-2011, 05:33 PM
Dragon88 Dragon88 is offline
Member
Midway bullets Midway bullets Midway bullets Midway bullets Midway bullets  
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 3,054
Likes: 107
Liked 456 Times in 205 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug.38PR View Post
(manuels say to only use bullets made from said company who wrote manuel)
Ignore that.

Find a bullet in your manual that most closely resembles the bullets you have. Jacketed or cast is a big difference, then get as close as you can in weight and profile. Use the data in the manual, start low and work up.

Additionally, I don't particularly like either of those manuals. Go to the online reloading center for the manufacturer of the powder you are using.

http://data.hodgdon.com/main_menu.asp
Alliant Powder - Reloader's Guide
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 10-12-2011, 05:59 PM
john16443 john16443 is offline
Member
Midway bullets Midway bullets Midway bullets Midway bullets Midway bullets  
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Ramona, CA
Posts: 236
Likes: 2
Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Default

+1 to what Dragon88 said.

The bullets you bought from Midway were manufactured by somebody OTHER than Midway anyway. Give us a clue as to what type bullets you bought (weight, style, material, shape) and what powders you're planning on using, and we can point you in the right direction. I'm 99.999% sure that your Speer and Hornady manuals contain all the information you need to get started at safe charges.
__________________
S&W15-22 RIA 1911
CZ75B SR9
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 10-12-2011, 08:42 PM
Paul5388's Avatar
Paul5388 Paul5388 is offline
US Veteran
Midway bullets Midway bullets Midway bullets Midway bullets Midway bullets  
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Rusk Co. Texas
Posts: 1,318
Likes: 0
Liked 43 Times in 31 Posts
Default

I've never seen a Midway bullet in pistol calibers. I've seen Dogtown in .223 and bulk Winchesters and Remingtons in pistol calibers, but no Midway brand per se. I also have some bulk Hornady that came in blue Midway boxes, but they are .223 also and the box label doesn't help identify them.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 10-12-2011, 08:48 PM
Dragon88 Dragon88 is offline
Member
Midway bullets Midway bullets Midway bullets Midway bullets Midway bullets  
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 3,054
Likes: 107
Liked 456 Times in 205 Posts
Default

I'm guessing these are Midway bulk bullets. They are name brand to one manufacturer or another, but get split into small batches and shipped in Midway labeled blue boxes.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 10-12-2011, 09:27 PM
Calliope Calliope is offline
Member
Midway bullets Midway bullets Midway bullets Midway bullets Midway bullets  
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: On the Mississippi.
Posts: 380
Likes: 117
Liked 157 Times in 94 Posts
Default

I've seen some Hornady swaged pistol bullets listed as Midway brand blem's.

Either follow Dragon88's advice or give us more detailed info.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 10-13-2011, 12:48 AM
ArchAngelCD's Avatar
ArchAngelCD ArchAngelCD is offline
Moderator
SWCA Member
Absent Comrade
Midway bullets Midway bullets Midway bullets Midway bullets Midway bullets  
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Northeast PA, USA
Posts: 8,877
Likes: 1,029
Liked 5,070 Times in 2,660 Posts
Default

I have to agree with the above information. In some cases it's better to use the manual published by the bullet manufacturer you're using but it's not necessary. Choose the data where the bullet weight and profile are close and you're good. For example, if you have a Speer manual and they list data for their 148gr DEWC bullet the data will be identical for a Hornady 148gr DEWC bullet.

The reason the manuals tell you to use only their components is because they want you to buy their components...
__________________
Freedom is never free!!
SWCA #3437
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 10-13-2011, 09:54 AM
Paul5388's Avatar
Paul5388 Paul5388 is offline
US Veteran
Midway bullets Midway bullets Midway bullets Midway bullets Midway bullets  
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Rusk Co. Texas
Posts: 1,318
Likes: 0
Liked 43 Times in 31 Posts
Default

I just looked at a brown box of bulk bullets from Midway that only says "Rem .38 Special bullets" and that's all it says. I happen to know it's 125 gr Golden Sabers in there, but I also know that there isn't any Remington data for that bullet, because Remington doesn't publish any data.

If I use data for a Sierra 125 gr JHC, or an XTP, it should work just fine. However, the reverse isn't necessarily true. The Golden Saber is a bore rider with only a small driving band that's bore diameter and the rest is groove diameter. That configuration will produce less pressure than a non-bore rider, like everyone else makes. So, what I work up for the GS is not necessarily safe with an XTP, Gold Dot or Sierra JHC.

If the DEWC example is followed, it should work fine, but that doesn't always hold true for every bullet, especially jacketed bullets.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 10-13-2011, 11:46 PM
papajohn428's Avatar
papajohn428 papajohn428 is offline
Member
Midway bullets Midway bullets Midway bullets Midway bullets Midway bullets  
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Coastal Missouri
Posts: 1,898
Likes: 899
Liked 977 Times in 467 Posts
Default

Midway is a retailer, not a manufacturer. They sell bullets. and about anything else you can think of.

If you work up your loads like you should, it doesn't matter whose bullet or data you're using.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 10-14-2011, 11:44 AM
gregintenn gregintenn is offline
Member
Midway bullets  
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Lafayette, Tennessee
Posts: 6,926
Likes: 6,833
Liked 8,936 Times in 2,910 Posts
Default

Give Larry Potterfield a call. He'll tell you how to load em.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 10-14-2011, 12:11 PM
Dragon88 Dragon88 is offline
Member
Midway bullets Midway bullets Midway bullets Midway bullets Midway bullets  
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 3,054
Likes: 107
Liked 456 Times in 205 Posts
Default

Larry is out hunting these days, I barely recognize him!



And that's the way it is.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
223, hornady, remington


Posting Rules
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
SOLD Please Close - For Sale - Factory/Midway Sealed 44 Mag Brass & Bullets ayetee Accessories/Misc - For Sale or Trade 0 06-28-2014 11:08 AM
Remington 45ACP 230GR Bullets @ Midway jayman9207 Reloading 4 03-26-2013 03:50 PM
Midway has Barnes Tipped TAC-TX Bullets 300 AAC Blackout/ 300 Whisper wass Smith & Wesson M&P15 Rifles 0 01-18-2013 08:38 PM
WTB: Remington 38cal 148gr HBWC bullets - Have Star bullets to trade! Black_Talon WANTED to Buy 1 09-09-2011 09:38 PM
Midway Rainier plated bullets vs. jacketed? Lou_NC Reloading 9 03-19-2010 07:36 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:03 PM.


Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)