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Old 10-11-2011, 07:13 PM
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Just switched from a 200 gr lswc to a 200 lrnfp. Theoretically should a rnfp be a more reliable feeder than a lswc? Def had to crank the seating die down. They sure seem to take a bowling pin off the table better.

How many times is a 45 case good for reloading? What criteria are you using?

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Old 10-11-2011, 07:17 PM
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I have been using some cases for over 30 years. You usually loose them before they wear out. They can split or the primer pockets get loose.
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Old 10-11-2011, 07:18 PM
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Yes, a round nose, even with a flat point, should be a bit more reliable feeding in most guns.

45 cases last just about forever. Shoot them until the primer pockets get too loose or the case splits.
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Old 10-11-2011, 07:21 PM
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I load my 45acp cases until they crack, won't hold a crimp or the primer pockets get loose, then I scrap them.
No clue on the rnfp bullet, I use the 200 lswc almost exclusively.
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Old 10-11-2011, 07:42 PM
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Your magazine feed lips are which style?

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Old 10-11-2011, 08:35 PM
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Since you don't roll crimp the 45 acp case they tend to last for a long time, of course sooner or later they will fail. If you shoot mostly light target loads you could reload them many times.
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Old 10-11-2011, 09:34 PM
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As has been said, a 45ACP case at normal 45ACP pressures will last a long, long, time. Inspect them, when cracked, discard.

Unless you are shooting some pot metal piece of junk, the case is not going to keep you from blowing it up. In a good gun, a weak case, at these pressures will not cause firearm damage.

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p.s. If your firearm will feed the LSWC (assuming it is an auto) you will have no problem with the LRNFP.
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Old 10-11-2011, 10:41 PM
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Yes, in most guns a RNFP will feed better than a SWC. I have reloaded some of my 45acp cases so many times you can't read the headstamp anymore, myabe 18-20X. Keep pressures low & the brass lasts along time.
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I have shot thousands of rounds of 200 gr. LRNFP out of the Bar-Sto barrel in my Glock 21. I never had a single stoppage due to failure to feed or extract. Failure to extract was a big problem with the 200 gr. LSWC, as the second to last round in the magazine would consistently bump the shoulder of the last round and cause a stoppage in every one of my dozen magazines. This problem might be unique to the Glock 21, but the smooth profile of the LRNFP completely eliminated that problem.

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Old 10-12-2011, 04:59 PM
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I have shot thousands of rounds of 200 gr. LRNFP out of the Bar-Sto barrel in my Glock 21. I never had a single stoppage due to failure to feed or extract. Failure to extract was a big problem with the 200 gr. LSWC, as the second to last round in the magazine would consistently bump the shoulder of the last round and cause a stoppage in every one of my dozen magazines. This problem might be unique to the Glock 21, but the smooth profile of the LRNFP completely eliminated that problem.

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Any special reason you went with the Bar-Sto? I have the Glock 21SF with a 6" Wolf. Just wondering............
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Old 10-12-2011, 05:03 PM
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I’ve fired well in excess of 100,000 rounds of 200 gr LSWC 45 ACP ammo in 4 different 1911s, most loaded for IPSC competition. When loaded properly the 200 LSWC has been 100 reliable in my guns. Not that I haven’t had some failures, just not due to the LSWC. Once in a great while a high primer will get by me or a magazine problem will crop up.

I wouldn’t think of changing.

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Thanks for all the responses. Shooting this load thru a compensated Glock. Six inch Lone wolf threaded barrel with a 4 port comp. 5 grains of Bullseye. Also shoot this load in a 25-2. Just finished 1500 reloads with the lswc. Only going to the fp because of faster reloading in the revolver and better pin action. Gotta have 8 or 9 reloads on some of these cases.

I have been tumbling the brass in corncob media after each use. Is that over kill? Thanks
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Old 10-12-2011, 08:29 PM
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Definitely not overkill on the tumbling. I do at least 2 hours after each firing. Or sometimes I forget the tumbler is going for *cough* a while and the cases come out sparking.
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I agree with the above, you will probably lose the cases before they fail. I can't remember a .45 Auto case failing on my over the past 6 years or longer.
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Any special reason you went with the Bar-Sto? I have the Glock 21SF with a 6" Wolf. Just wondering............
I image the reasoning is the lswc bullets. Glock barrels and lead don't go together.
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Oops. I didn't notice the Wolf part of the question. I'll mind my own business now.

I'm a fan of the lswc. Pay attention to oal and my 1911 feeds them just fine.

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I tumble every piece of brass I shoot after every time it's shot. I don't think it's overkill at all. Clean brass makes better ammo and besides, dirt is not a friend to your dies. Sometimes when I have time I let the brass go long and make it shinny instead of just clean...
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IMO no. Clean brass is good.

I actually just use crushed walnut (lizard litter) & some Nu Finish car polish. Not quite as sparkling as cob but shiny enough in a lot less time.
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IMO no. Clean brass is good.

I actually just use crushed walnut (lizard litter) & some Nu Finish car polish. Not quite as sparkling as cob but shiny enough in a lot less time.
I split the difference. I do 50% corncob and 50% crushed walnut and that seems to work very well for me...
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I have shot thousands of rounds of 200 gr. LRNFP out of the Bar-Sto barrel in my Glock 21. I never had a single stoppage due to failure to feed or extract. Failure to extract was a big problem with the 200 gr. LSWC, as the second to last round in the magazine would consistently bump the shoulder of the last round and cause a stoppage in every one of my dozen magazines. This problem might be unique to the Glock 21, but the smooth profile of the LRNFP completely eliminated that problem.

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Not unique at all. I think it plagues many tilt bbl designs. The XD won't reliabley feed a LSWC either. I switched to a 200grLTC for all my 45acp stuff to make it easier. I do miss those really nice clean holes the LSWC makes.
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I agree with the above, you will probably lose the cases before they fail. I can't remember a .45 Auto case failing on my over the past 6 years or longer.
Yeah, load them enough & you'll get the occasional split starting @ the mouth, but it's like 15X reloaded.
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I shoot with a person who has used his same brass collection for 40 years. He shoots very light paper punching loads and says "This brass will out live me." I then gave him some once fired white box brass to watch him grin.
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jkmo~

Wanna really have fun and appreciate the 1911 in your hand? After casting those LRN beauties, try to...

Get a GI/Hardball feed lip (the full length tapered design) magazine and throw some LRNs thru it. It's magnificent.
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