44 spl 200 wc

[jibjab]

.44 200 gr. DEWC FB per 500 .44 200 gr. DEWC FB [DEWC] - $46.00 : Rim Rock Bullets, Premium Cast Lead Bullets

Has anyone tried these ?

I like that they are flat base, though the specs are DEWC ?

I'd really like to give these a try in a SW 696.

Any thoughts ?

PS, here's another option

.44 Caliber Bullets Available From Penn Bullets

I would use these for a multi- purpose load.

Thanks

jj

[El Biblioitecario]

I tried them, they didn't shoot to the same point of aim as my 240 grain SWC bullets, I decieded I didn't to fool with changing the sight setting for different loads, and sold my .44 WC bullets to someone on the internet.

[Forrest r]

I have a 6 1/2"bbl 624, the only thing that I shoot in it are wc bullets. I cast my own, lyman 429348 180g wc bullets.

That target pistol will stack those bullets on top of each other @50ft.

[jibjab]

Thanks for the replies,

Forrest, I am encouraged with the accuracy potential. What powder and charge do you use ?

Do you have any leading with your wc's ?

thanks

jj

[pete950]

Originally Posted by jibjab

.44 200 gr. DEWC FB per 500 .44 200 gr. DEWC FB [DEWC] - $46.00 : Rim Rock Bullets, Premium Cast Lead Bullets

Has anyone tried these ?

I like that they are flat base, though the specs are DEWC ?

I'd really like to give these a try in a SW 696.

Any thoughts ?

PS, here's another option

.44 Caliber Bullets Available From Penn Bullets

I would use these for a multi- purpose load.

Thanks

jj

Check out the wadcutters from Matt's bullets at mattsbullets.com
he even has a full 250gr and HBWC for the 44.

[Forrest r]

I'm not driving them hard/fast enough to get any leading.
I found 3 different powders that worked extremely well with this bullet/pistol/bullet size combo. The bullets are nothing more than range pickings (6 to 8 bhn), sized to .430" & the bullet lube is a home brew (graphite). The oal is already shown in my last post.
6.0g of universal clays
5.0g of bullseye
5.2g of ww231/hp-38

Something to keep in mind when you buy bullets is to try to find out the BHN of them & the dia they are sized to. Both of those #'s will go a long way towards finding a good load for your firearm. If the bullets too hard & you run them too slow (low pressure load) you'll get leading. If the bullet is too small (dia) for the cylinders or bore you can get leading, the same if you get soft bullets and run them to fast.

There are a couple of formulas that I use to try to give me some insight on what loads to use for a particular bullet. It deals with the hardness (bhn) of the bullet.

For finding the ideal bullet hardness for different loads: BHN=pressure/1920, testing my loads
6.0g universal clays 12,500psi/1920=6.5 for the ideal BHN of the bullet
5.0g bullseye 11,500psi/1920= 6.0 for the ideal BHN of the bullet
5.2g ww231/hp-38 12,000psi/1920=6.25 for the ideal BHN of the bullet

For finding the max BHN you can use in a load: Max BHN=pressure/1422, testing my loads
6.0g universal clays 12,500psi/1422=8.8 max BHN
5.0 bullseye 11,500psi/1422=8.0 max BHN
5.2g ww231/hp-38 12,000psi/1422=8.4 max BHN

What these #'s tell me is when I could start getting leading with the hardness of the bullets I'm using. Basically if I tried to use a bullet with a BHN of 12 or 14 with these soft/light loads the bullet will have a hard time obulating in the chambers/bbl & leading will have a greater chance of occurring. On the other hand my bullets would have a hard time in magnum loads due to the high pressures & soft bullets.

Those formulas aren't the holy grail of reloading but they will give you some insight on where to start with different test loads.

I hope this helps.

[jibjab]

Forrest thanks again,

Most cast bullets I find for 44 spl are in the 12-15 BHN range. I have had leading issues with beveled based bullets, and very minimal with the flat based in this hardness range. I do push my loads to the upper end of the data for my 696, accuracy permitting.

I did measure the cylinder throats, they are .429+"

I do hope to cast my own some day, I am keeping an eye out for equipment.