was aware of it ...
that'd do as the cartridge and one of the guns.
now if it were in a larger service sized pistol, we could love love it like a mistress on the range.

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That is a necked down 32 case with a 25 bullet . Needs a 32 size gun NAA Last I knew only one made one. Ammo is corbon and expensive. If I going to carry a 32 size pistol Iam going to shoot 32 ammo. Same thing with the 32 NAA uses a 380 case and 380 frame .

I never saw the reasoning or need for either round We need BB to make a 25+P 35gr at 1000fps . Since they like to hang +P on calibers that no +P exists .

Ruger Mark 2 ...
frame size is in the ballpark of a 9MM, but chambered in 22LR.
No one has a problem with it.
why pitch a fit over something similar, but can be reloaded?
Have we learned nothing from the 22LR crisis?

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PLEASE DON'T GET OFFENDED, Dave, BECAUSE I MEAN YOU NO DISRESPECT…..

YOU MUST BE TRULY BORED. IMHO, NOT ONLY IS THE .25ACP NOT WORTH RELOADING, ITS NOT EVEN WORTH SHOOTING. IF YOUR GRANDPA LEFT YOU A BEAUTIFUL LITTLE VEST POCKET COLT PISTOL CHAMBERED IN THE CALIBER, IT WOULD BE ONE THING, BUT TO ACTUALLY PURCHASE A PISTOL IN THAT CALIBER IS FOLLY, IN MY ESTIMATION. A HOT .22 LR IS A BETTER ROUND FOR ANY PURPOSE YOU MAY HAVE IN MIND. JUST SELL OFF OR TRADE YOUR AMMO, AND MOVE ON. YOU ARE JUST WASTING TIME AND MONEY…...

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Will a Baby Browning or Vest Pocket Colt shoot +P ammo? Larry

Bkreutz and Dwalt - Thanks both of you for your reply. Just getting started on this site and am not really sure how to navigate (still not sure if I am answering you correctly here) which is why I just tagged an old post.
I confess I had not really looked into the case, and when I did I found exactly what you thought - some are single hole and some are triple hole for the primer. The triple hole would explain why my pin wouldn't push out the primer!
Unfortunately the majority of my empty brass is of the bad version. I had hoped to reload since I was having a difficult time finding ammo.
I guess I'll just have to keep looking, although I may still try and load the few dozen cases I can reload. Just like tinkering with reloading I guess.

To answer my own question, yes, the .25 ACP IS worth reloading. I have found that performance is greatly improved by using more sensitive (Federal) primers that fire on the first try, using hard jacketed (NOT plated) bullets that actually do penetrate and using ample powder charges that cause the harder bullets to penetrate. Thus it is possible to eliminate the numerous factors that have made the .25 such a pathetic and unreliable cartridge over the years. It's certainly not my first choice for concealed carry, but it does have its place and is certainly worthy of some respect.

Dave Sinko

It's worth it for me. I was able to shoot my 950 Beretta even during recent "Big Ammo Drought". I am not planning to use it as a carry or home defense but it sure is a nice conversation starter. I even made little reloading block specifically for 25 ACP

Hey it's fun that is what is important. Is it worth doing. It is if it's fun. Don

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Truly not much fun to reload..but I do. I am down to my last 200 S&W 25 ACP new cases. Yep..S&W did load them and sell components. I have thought to maybe keep them as collectibles. I have a WWII bring back if I can find it. Never have shot it. Also have an older Beretta 25 in the box I got at a garage sale for 25 dollars. It shoots pretty well. Not a real strong grip safety on it. Last and surely not least I have an old Colt 1908. It was given to me by the father of a very good friend. It has factory checked Ivory grips on it. To be honest the only way to really shoot the darn thing well is to tape the 20 lb grip safety on it..then it is truly accurate at any decent range.

No it's probably not practical unless you're going to shoot a LOT of 25 acp!
But I just can't help myself. OK I'm a compulisve reloader. I admit it. and the little 25 is just FUN to load.

Back when I had substntialy more hair , I bought a Raven .25 . It completely missed the paper at 7yd , probably had to do with the 20lb + trigger. Not to mention sights that were invisable , and so-called safety that released itself. I quickly replaced it with the then state of the art micro pistol - AMT .380 .

Later on I picked up a Bauer. But with my XXL hands , only a third of one finger fits on the grip , and the backstrap doesn't reach to the web of my hand , so practical accuraccy is poor. But regardless , for a brief time added to BUG rotation. While it could be carried in exotic deep concealment ( shirt pocket, cigarette pack, etc) when carried for rapid access , I found I could just as easily pack an M37 . No contest , went with M37 and didn't look back.

But this past weekend haf my eyes opened ! One of my friends asked me to "go over" his dust covered pistol that had only been handled rarely ( but not fired ) for decades. A 1948 mfg Astra Firecat . No blue wear, light tarnish on chrome (?) Trigger. So that is what 90% 95% ? Reliable with the tarnished ammo in the clip , as well as current UMC .

But what cought my attention : all steel , yet 13oz. Big enough to get one whole finger on the grip and back strap confortably fill hand and reliably depress grip safety. While still being small enough for ez pocket use.

Usable sights , and 4lb trigger. Minute of soda can @ 7yd !Heck this is good enough to plink with.

This gun overcomes 2 of the 3 reasons that .25acp's are pointless. Reliable , safe , and good practical accuracy. The fatal flaw for the intended SD use is still the utter lack of power, but somthing like this would make a fun toy. FWIW , in my area .25 ammo is more avail than .22lr . And .25 was $18 on sale while .22lr is $8.99/50 .