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New to reloading here. I bought a bunch of 165 grain plated bullets from rocky mountain reloading. I have read online to use cast bullets load data or mild jacketed with the same profile and weight. My manual has a similar shape bullet starting at 5 grains of titegroup. Is that a good starting point? Thanks for any help.
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I'm assuming you mean for .40SW?

If yes then yes to follow lead bullet data or mild jacketed bullet data. Most of what I read for use of jacketed bullet data for plated is to drop it by 10%.

Hodgdon lists 5.1 as the max grains for a 165 JHP so that would seem like 5 grains to start is pretty high. I don't have any reloading manuals near me right now to check.

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Hey all,
New to reloading here. I bought a bunch of 165 grain plated bullets from rocky mountain reloading. I have read online to use cast bullets load data or mild jacketed with the same profile and weight. My manual has a similar shape bullet starting at 5 grains of titegroup. Is that a good starting point? Thanks for any help.
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What manual? Caliber? 40 SW?

As Bob mentioned if 40 SW and 5.1 is max then you are starting too high. A (.1) gr difference is very little and chances of going over it is a great. Manual data will vary from powder manufacturers data sometimes due to different test procedures.
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Hey Dirtyted, welcome to the madness! I'm relatively new to this too.

As others say, more information would be good. By the way, I have had much success using Titegroup and mild to moderate loads for plated bullets in 9, 38 and 45. A decent choice although you do need to mind your P's & Q's because you can drop a double charge really easily!
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Hey all,
New to reloading here. I bought a bunch of 165 grain plated bullets from rocky mountain reloading. I have read online to use cast bullets load data or mild jacketed with the same profile and weight. My manual has a similar shape bullet starting at 5 grains of titegroup. Is that a good starting point? Thanks for any help.
I am not sure what manual you have that tells you TG at that charge is "mild". IMO, TG is TERRIBLE choice for a noob reloader in aany caliber & for the 40, it borders on foolish. Make a small mistake w/ an uberfast powder in a small volume/high pressure round like the 40 & there is just no margin for error. You would use the STARTING jacketed data, that is closer to 4.5gr & your upside is only a couple 1/10s w/ TG.
IMO, put it on the shelf until you have loaded say 2K rds using a medium burner like Unique, WSF, Universal or or PowerPistol. TG is at best a bunny fart powder for rounds like the 40.
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I load TG for .40 major, and I use plated bullets for minor .40, but I DON't use TG with 165gr plated bullets to try to make major!!
I have problems in some guns with the 180gr plated starting to show dispersion (indicating plating failure) at major power.

If you aren't trying to make any particular power factor and you must use TG, 4.4 will work fine with 165gr plated bullets.
HP38 or WSF are easier on the beginner for range loading.
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I load TG for .40 major, and I use plated bullets for minor .40, but I DON't use TG with 165gr plated bullets to try to make major!!
I have problems in some guns with the 180gr plated starting to show dispersion (indicating plating failure) at major power.
Does that mean plated bullets (180s) wouldn't be the best to load to 1100 fps in my 10mm?
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Does that mean plated bullets (180s) wouldn't be the best to load to 1100 fps in my 10mm?

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thanks for the replies guys. The manual I have is the one that came with my RCBS reloading kit. I'm not by my bench right now to remember which. It has a load for jacketed bullets 5 min and 5.4 max I believe for tite group. I am not trying to make any power factor, just for range use.

I dont know what "universal" powder is, but is it universal clays? what about using regular clays powder? that would be nice because it is at a store in my town for the shotgun reloaders. Thanks for any help guys.
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Also forgot to mention, yes its 40sw
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