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Old 03-04-2012, 11:15 PM
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So, as I sit here preparing .223 cases for loading, I'm thinking there has to be a faster way to lube the inside of the neck. I just can't think of it. Been using cotton swaps for awhile now and it is time consuming. Anyone have a better/different method
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Old 03-04-2012, 11:33 PM
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I don't think what I'm about to type has any bearing at all on your question, but I watched a video of a guy spraying a couple of blasts of one shot into a ziplock bag and shaking it to lube cases. I have since tried it and it worked great on pistol brass. Anyway, hopefully someone will chime in later.
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Use a stiff .223 bore brush. You don't have to daub like would with a Q-tip.
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Old 03-04-2012, 11:52 PM
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lay out the cases in a row with the mouths facing you make a pass with a can of one shot so that the angle of the spray gets some in the neck .. sweep your hand across them to roll em dry side up and spray another quick pass.
you need not bee too meticulous in your lube operation. That what gets into the die will take care of the missed dry sided cases
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I use an oversize bore mop with a few drops of fine oil (gun oil, sewing machine oil, kerosene, ATF, etc.) applied. It lasts a long time, several hundred cases, before needing a drop to replenish, and one stroke in & out is all it takes to prevent a squeak at neck expand.

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Thank you all for the useful information, tried the bore mop method, much faster and my wife will be sending thank you cards for saving her q-tip's
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Aluminum baking pan from any store - about $3 or less.

A couple sheets of paper towels on the bottom - pennies.

A spray bottle of Dillon spray case lube - $9.

Dump the tumbled and cleaned cases into the pan on top of the paper towels. It should only be a couple cases deep, an inch or so. Spray the cases and wait a moment, then lightly tumble the pan to move the cases around a bit. Wait a couple minutes, then spray again, lightly tumble them again.

Start reloading. Should make the cases move through the resizing die like butter.

You can make your own Dillon case lube with some lanolin and 99% alcohol, there's several on-line instructions available, it's not hard.

I've been using Dillon spray case lube for rifle cases for decades, it works.

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Imperial Dry Neck Lube - don't forget to buy the little tub of "application media" too:
Imperial Lubricants | Redding Reloading Equipment: reloading equipment for rifles, handguns, pistols, revolvers and SAECO bullet casting equipment

It's dry, so no powder globbing up in the case mouth. Also, it's evenly distributed all around the inside of the case neck. Spray lube won't do that IME.

FWIW Imperial Sizing Wax works like a champ too - just don't use too much. I dab a finger in the wax every 2-4 cases and rub around the neck & shoulder every case. When you're done sizing, just lay the cases lengthwise in a row on a towel, fold it over the cases, and roll them clean.
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I use powdered graphite, it doesn’t get any easier. I bought a tube (1#) of it years ago & have used it ever since.

I simply stick the end (mouth) of the case (neck area only/stop where the case shoulder begins) in the tub of graphite & give it a quick twist. Then I pull the case out, give it a tap on the side of the tub & give the case neck a wipe with a dry cloth to take the graphite off the outside of the case. Simple, it only takes a couple seconds to lube the inside of a case/case neck.

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This looks pretty cool and easy. Of course I would knock it over and spill it.

Imperial Application Media - Sinclair Intl

I use this but mix my own liquid water based lube rather than the mica.

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I use powdered graphite, it doesn’t get any easier. I bought a tube (1#) of it years ago & have used it ever since.

I simply stick the end (mouth) of the case (neck area only/stop where the case shoulder begins) in the tub of graphite & give it a quick twist. Then I pull the case out, give it a tap on the side of the tub & give the case neck a wipe with a dry cloth to take the graphite off the outside of the case. Simple, it only takes a couple seconds to lube the inside of a case/case neck.

OK, where do you get it??
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Lee liquid lube. water it down a bit, toss around in a ziploc bag, lay in sun to dry, reload away.
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I think there are carbide expanders available from Hornaday and other mfgrs. One of those would negate needing any case neck lube.
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I think there are carbide expanders available from Hornaday and other mfgrs. One of those would negate needing any case neck lube.
over $100 just for the die and they still say you have to lube some, per the web site. Have not tried one though.
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I stand my cases up and give 'em a spritz from above at about a 45 degree angle. Some gets in the neck.

Carbide expander buttons work great too.
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I bought that at a local parts outlet for farm/tractors. Do a search on e-bay, it normally sells for $15 a # or $40 for 5#.
A pound of it will lasts for years, I also use it to make a graphite lube for a couple of different bullets.
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over $100 just for the die and they still say you have to lube some, per the web site. Have not tried one though.
We are talking apples and oranges. Redding has a carbide expander available for their dies for $28 carbide size button kit.

Lyman makes one for $25 Lyman carbide expander.

And someone makes one for the RCBS sizing dies.

Not only will the carbide expander allow you to size without having to lube the inside of the neck, it will reduce how much your die pulls the neck off center.
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I am in a "BIG" learning curve on rifle reloading and was watching a video on how to lube rifle cases. This guy used synthetic motor oil. He poured some in a small container then put the case mouth in it. He then put the case in the shell holder on his press and lightly rubbed his fingers down the side of the case. He said he only lubed one case out of ten. I think you have to tumble them again to get the lube off. I might give that a try. I have found out that there is a lot of ways to lube cases and a lot of them are good. Don

PS I like the graphite idea too. It's only money.
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I am in a "BIG" learning curve on rifle reloading and was watching a video on how to lube rifle cases. This guy used synthetic motor oil. He poured some in a small container then put the case mouth in it. He then put the case in the shell holder on his press and lightly rubbed his fingers down the side of the case. He said he only lubed one case out of ten. I think you have to tumble them again to get the lube off. I might give that a try. I have found out that there is a lot of ways to lube cases and a lot of them are good. Don
I tried the YouTube case lube method you just watched. To me it wasn't enough to lube to go 10 cases. Sizing just got too hard for cases after the 4'th or 5'th. But I did use the concept and now I use synthetic oil for my case lube. I just apply it with a paper shop towel and roll the cases on it. It really does work well and you never dent cases with too much lube. YMMV
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Carbide button, Hornady One Shot lube shot at angle in just some of the case necks. This lube works so well and is so easy to use I can't understand why one would use anything else....

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over $100 just for the die and they still say you have to lube some, per the web site. Have not tried one though.
What you are talking about are carbide sizing dies which you do have to still lube the outside of the case. They are geared to high volume reloaders who want extended die life. With a carbide expander you do not need to lube the inside of the necks, just a shot of the hornady spray for the outside and you are good to go.
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I've never lubricated the inside of a case neck, and don't use carbide sizing buttons. I do lube one of every few cases on the outside, below the shoulder.
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I'm going to try the graphite next time I load .223 cases. I mixed RCBS's lube with alcohol in a spray bottle and while that worked, it was getting a little too much on some and not enough on the rest. I sprayed them while standing up on the loading block and thought that was good enough. I guess I could try shaking them in a box afterwards.

I think most of my trouble comes from the hurry up mode I want to get in like I'm loading pistol ammo. Rifle ammo just isn't like that.
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I'm going to try the graphite next time I load .223 cases. I mixed RCBS's lube with alcohol in a spray bottle and while that worked, it was getting a little too much on some and not enough on the rest. I sprayed them while standing up on the loading block and thought that was good enough. I guess I could try shaking them in a box afterwards.

I think most of my trouble comes from the hurry up mode I want to get in like I'm loading pistol ammo. Rifle ammo just isn't like that.
I did some searching for powdered graphite and found a lot of artist places sell it for pretty cheap.

I also read that graphite can cause corrosion on aluminum so if any dies have aluminum (what are Lee outsides made off?) it may be a problem for them or the turret???????

Asbury Carbons - The World's Carbon and Graphite Source - Amorphous Graphite

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I've never lubricated the inside of a case neck, and don't use carbide sizing buttons. I do lube one of every few cases on the outside, below the shoulder.
Same here, no inside the neck lube. I do, however, lube all cases below the shoulder.
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Get a small container. A film canister works well. Fill it 3/4ths full of #8 shot. Add some powdered graphite to the shot. Dip the case necks in and give them a twist. You don't need much graphite at all.
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Stand them up in the block & use OneShot. It doesn't take much case neck lube.
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