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Old 07-06-2012, 12:45 PM
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Default Need load data: .357 Mag / 180-gr XTP / Blue Dot

My Hornady load book is old, does not have the 180-grain XTP bullet listed.

I have Blue Dot powder, can someone look up the load data for Blue Dot please?

I did load six rounds with 10.3 grains BlueDot and shot over the chronograph in the backyard:
Ruger GP-100 with 4-inch barrel, Average = 1120 fps.

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Old 07-06-2012, 06:52 PM
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Check Lyman's 49th reloading manual page 358.
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Old 07-06-2012, 07:09 PM
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Bill - I don't have the Lyman manual. Just 1990 editions of Hornady and a Speer from around the same time. John
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Old 07-06-2012, 07:39 PM
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Need load data:  .357 Mag / 180-gr XTP / Blue Dot Need load data:  .357 Mag / 180-gr XTP / Blue Dot Need load data:  .357 Mag / 180-gr XTP / Blue Dot Need load data:  .357 Mag / 180-gr XTP / Blue Dot Need load data:  .357 Mag / 180-gr XTP / Blue Dot  
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That is about a starting load for 2400

You can carefully work your way up to 12.5 grains of 2400

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Old 07-06-2012, 08:16 PM
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8.4 to 9.4 Blue Dot for a 180 xtp from Lyman 49th.

Hornady #8 manual does not list Blue Dot in their test data.
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Old 07-06-2012, 08:37 PM
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I would back the Blue Dot load off to 9.7 grains as a max
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I thought Blue Dot was no longer recommended for use in the .357 Magnum or is that only with 125gr bullets?
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Old 07-07-2012, 10:36 AM
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I thought Blue Dot was no longer recommended for use in the .357 Magnum or is that only with 125gr bullets?
Just the 125 gr. and any 41 Mag


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At Alliant Powder, we take safety seriously. That’s why we periodically test our products in different situations to be sure our use recommendations stay current. Check here for any safety notes or recall information. Stay safe and keep accurate.
Alliant Powder periodically reviews and tests their published reloading data to verify that our recommended recipes have not changed over time.
During the latest review Alliant Powder discovered that Alliant Powder's Blue DotŪ should not be used in the following applications:
  • Blue DotŪ should NOT be used in the 357 Magnum load using the 125 grain projectile (Blue DotŪ recipes with heavier bullet weights as specified in Alliant Powders Reloading Guide are acceptable for use).
  • Blue DotŪ should NOT be used in the 41 Magnum cartridge (all bullet weights).
Use of Blue DotŪ in the above cases may cause a high pressure situation that could cause property damage and serious personal injury.
We apologize for any inconvenience that this may cause and appreciate your understanding and cooperation in this matter.
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Just the 125 gr. and any 41 Mag


Safety Notice

At Alliant Powder, we take safety seriously. That’s why we periodically test our products in different situations to be sure our use recommendations stay current. Check here for any safety notes or recall information. Stay safe and keep accurate.
Alliant Powder periodically reviews and tests their published reloading data to verify that our recommended recipes have not changed over time.
During the latest review Alliant Powder discovered that Alliant Powder's Blue DotŪ should not be used in the following applications:
  • Blue DotŪ should NOT be used in the 357 Magnum load using the 125 grain projectile (Blue DotŪ recipes with heavier bullet weights as specified in Alliant Powders Reloading Guide are acceptable for use).
  • Blue DotŪ should NOT be used in the 41 Magnum cartridge (all bullet weights).
Use of Blue DotŪ in the above cases may cause a high pressure situation that could cause property damage and serious personal injury.
We apologize for any inconvenience that this may cause and appreciate your understanding and cooperation in this matter.
Thank you, I had forgotten exactly what the changes were.
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