I have a several moulds of this same design.

One in 44 caliber and one in 45. They are some of the best shooting bullets I have ever shot.

This is from the 359640 one I just got last week. First casting. Was a little hot, hence the frosty look on them. That doesn't matter though, they will shoot just fine.

Can't wait to get them into the M586 and Marlin 1894!

Have to cast a few solids too, just to see how they shoot!

What do they weigh?

158.8 +/- .2gr so far in this configuration. I have solid and penta pins for this as well. The solids will be around 20gr more. (?) Upwards of 180gr I would imagine.

With fixed sight guns, this should work well in either 357Mag or 38Spl.

First shooting.
M586 w/6" barrel.
Other details on target.
Headed out.....

I just started loading a few of those as well:



I'm using BAC for lube. They just fit in my 28-2's cylinder seated to the first groove.

Are you using 158gr data for your loads?

Hey Bob!

Yes, I am using 158gr load data with them. I didn't chrono them today but they were stout loads. Not too worried about the M586. It would have to be a triple charge of some super fast powder to take that thing out! An "N" frame is going to be the same!

Do you have a chronograph? Is your mould the lighter version? Mine is the 359640 and there is a 360640. The latter is lighter in the HP version. Around 140gr. It only has one crimp groove though.

Mine is the 359640 mold. I have only been loading them with 170gr load data as I thought it had more to do with the seating depth than the bullet weight. I know my M28 can handle some stout loads but I would drown the whole world with my tears if I ruined my M28 with a too hot load. Right now all my load data is coming from the Lyman Cast Bullet Handbook. No chrono, I just haven't spent the money. I looked around for a better SWC mold until it hit me I hate having to struggle to get the speed loader into the cylinder. But these babies slide right in and that HP cavity makes them look like flying coffee cups!

Elmer had the same data for his boolit and those of the 160gr class. His weighs in at 173gr or so. Less in the case and, I could be wrong but this is going to be close as to which has more in the case from my SWC to this design.

Skip, did you get the penta pins with yours?

Yes I did get them too. Not a big fan but, they came with this mould. They are cool looking but I am not sure they aid in any fashion, HP performance wise or accuracy wise.....FWIW
Here is why I can load these in my firearms to the same level as other 160gr 38 caliber bullets. This picture will speak volumes to those that are in the know and understand....................

50 loaded with 3.5gr of Bullseye in 38spl cases are waiting to be shot now!

Will keep you informed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

These Mihec molds look great, but I have one question.
What is the 'as cast' dia ? ( before sizing).
I grew up with Lyman molds. And they can be .003 -.009" over sized.

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.360" from my mould with my alloy. Alloy has a LOT to do with what the boolits size is. Harder = bigger, softer = smaller, harder = lighter, softer = heavier.

I checked and I think mine were dropping at the same diameter. I try to keep mine as close to a copy of Lyman #2 alloy as I can.

The BAC lube:



A few loaded:



The .430 version of this same mold:

454640 in 45 Colt cases:


I was the honcho for this group buy! Great boolit!

OOOOOoooooooo!!!! O_o

I missed that one.

I did get the Miha .45-270 SAA RCBS Clone but I have yet to use it. If I ever buy a lever gun then I will be trying to find that mold.

The RCBS clone is a good one too but the pins are too small. I like the rounded ogive of the 640 design for ballistic purposes and that cavernous HP has got to be devastating. I know it tears up bowling pins pretty nicely!

Haven't taken anything with them yet but......maybe this next year.

I am going to be selling some of my moulds and going all to the "640" designs. The one that I honcho'd weighs in at 250gr with the large pins in. There is a "Ruger Only" model that is 30gr (or so) heavier too. My 454640 will work in 45AR loads too. I even ran some out of a 1911! Not much room for powder but, hey, it would still smack something pretty hard, I'm a thinkin'!

You guys are killing me with those beautiful bullets.

I have both Lyman 429640 FN and the Devastator HP and they are great.

I was not active on Cast Boolits for a while and missed these group buys. I checked the M-P website and these all show as out of stock.

So now I have to obsess over finding the .35 & .45 caliber versions.

Anyone got an extra for sale?

Go to the "group buy" section and look up the list of everything that is out there for Miha. He is doing it full time now and I think he has realized that he needed to have some stock to work from. Send him a PM and ask what he has available. That is how I got the 359640.

Oh, and the 3.5gr Bullseye load? Yeah, perfect. And this time, no leading. Win/Win!

Is he a member here?

I've got one of MIHA's 640's but the .430" solid model. I cast a few hundred, sized, etc...Ashamed to say I haven't loaded or shot a single one yet.

I had no idea he had done a .358" design.

Anyoone on the fence about the MIHA moulds...they are FIRST RATE and despite the fact he's nearly on the other side of the world...the payment and shipping have been secure and reliable.

FN in MT

These are really the only decent fast casting SWCHP molds I've ever used. I no sooner discover that and then I buy my first 640 type mold. Now I think I'm going the Skip route and buying all the 640 molds that he offers.

No, you will have to go to Castboolits forum and look him up there. He also has a website: mp-molds.com

I've been to his website, where I discovered the out-of-stock status of all of his 640 designs.

I also have the Lyman Devastator in .45 caliber, but that's not a "640" profile and at 190grs is fine for the ACP but too light for the Long Colt. It is a near perfect susbstitute for the discontinued Speer 200gr Flying Ashtray, and I wish I had a heavier one for the revolvers.

I think Lyman made two mistakes with the Devastator line: The .35 caliber was made for 9mm and the .45 for the ACP.

I just don't see high volume 9mm and .45 shooters who want a HP spending time casting these one at a time.

Admittedly, these came out years before widespread CCW and the wild popularity of small .38's, but the 125 gr 9mm design, casting at .358 with a crimp groove could have served 9mm, .38 Super, .38 Special and in .357 all.

At 125 grs it would have just the ticket to duplicate the Federal "Chief's Special" for the little guns and at 150-160 grs would have made an awesome FBI Load v2.0.

The .45 at 230 grs with a crimp groove would have made a lots of pistol and revolver shooters happy, and a version at 250-270grs would have found a home in many Rugers and N-Frame Smiths.

When you get around to shooting these I'd like to see some of the recovered expanded bullets. Do the Penta points make any difference?

Well, on to finding some of these 640's.

I just cast up a couple hundred 358246 RN and 357446 SWC this afternoon. The 446's are my solid bullet substitute for the "FBI" practice load and I was thinking how great it would be casting HP's at that speed.

BTW, if you guys are really getting rid of any molds, send me a PM.

I only have about 70 molds right now and they've all known each other so long they need new friends.

Cerberus62,
Don't go by the status on the website. Contact him through PM at castboolits or send him an email. He doesn't keep his website as up to date as he should!

Very good, I'll do that.

I've cast some of these 640's in 359 myself. Put a hp pin in the mold along with a solid nose pin & put 2 penta point pins in the other 2 cavities & cast 25# of bullets. Here's what a couple of them lok like.



I haven't had time to do any testing with these yet, been busy working on a 45acp. The penta points open up quicker & at lower speeds. They are an excellent bullet for snub nosed revolvers or hits at long range.

Mihic molds are the cats meow!!! I've sold off all my other molds & now use them exclusively. I have/use 2 hbwc molds (358/432), a 359640 with the (hp pins, penta pins & solid point pins), a 452-68 which is a h&G68 clone with solid point pins & hp pins and a 432-265 mold. The 432-256 mold is a h&g503 clone (elmer keith swc) with the large hp pins, small hp pins, penta point pins & solid point pins.

I love these 4 cavity molds & the beautiful bullets that they cast. I'll be casting some of the 44 swc's tomorrow. I have the mold setup for 1 small hp, 1 large hp & 2 penta points.

So how have they been for you???

I've been a slacker and haven't been to the range in waaaaay to long.

I plan to change that this weekend.

I didn't get a chance to run them out of the snub but, they were awesome out of the 6" M586!

Every bit as accurate as my LSWC and shot to the same POI!

There was absolutely no leading either. These were a bit soft, mostly indoor range scrap (that I get for free), while pretty and well filled out, they were kind of soft......

Need to do an expansion test with them. Thanks for the reminder to respond.

Besides, don't we all need a push from one another for more range time?

My only complaint so far is the noses are pretty soft from being a little thin. They dent a little too easy. But a speed loader throws them in as easy as round nose as long as you line them up at least the slightest bit.

Shooting PPC (indoor gallery), I always used a stock M586 with no custom work at all and my LSWC worked fine. The short course of fire was 12 rounds in 18 seconds with a mandatory reload. I could always get done in 14 even with the sharp shoulders of that bullet.

Show off!!!

What speed loaders did you use? I don't compete but I try to practice with my HKS speed loaders. I've recently started buying a couple of 5 Star speed loaders and I am in love with them.





That's one of their new six shot loaders for 27's and 28's. I have two more on the way now since I like that one so much.