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Old 03-15-2013, 09:47 AM
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Default HP38 & 8lb-W231 @ Cabelas.

Don't know if anyone is looking for some, but Cabelas is showing it in stock--and they have one of the lowest Hazmat fees that I have seen ($20). Opposed to the $27.50 Grafs or MidwayUSA charges. They are also showing a fair selection of IMR powder in-stock too.

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Don't know if anyone is looking for some, but Cabelas is showing it in stock--and they have one of the lowest Hazmat fees that I have seen ($20). Opposed to the $27.50 Grafs or MidwayUSA charges. They are also showing a fair selection of IMR powder in-stock too.
There price for the # 8 pound jug of W231 is $ 165.00. They had 1# containers of HP-38 this AM for $ 20.99 but no longer. All components are starting to return but slowly and in limited quantities. The best thing we can do is bookmark the sites we want to watch and check them often. What a way to live.
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Thanks for the heads-up, novalty. Just picked some up.
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Thanks for the heads-up, novalty. Just picked some up.

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I'd say wait if you can. My last jug of HP-38, 8 lb., was $113 and that was a few weeks ago. Hazmat fee was $25 but it came with another 40 lb of other product. 50 pound fee per hazmat.
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I'd say wait if you can. My last jug of HP-38, 8 lb., was $113 and that was a few weeks ago. Hazmat fee was $25 but it came with another 40 lb of other product. 50 pound fee per hazmat.
I agree, $165 for an 8lb jug of W231/HP-38 is way too much IMO. Although not in stock, Powder Valley lists a price of $125 for 8lbs of W231 and $117 for 8lbs of HP-38.

BTW, the Hazmat fee is not set by the supplier, it's set by the courier and I think it's a uniform fee.
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BTW, the Hazmat fee is not set by the supplier, it's set by the courier and I think it's a uniform fee.
If that's the case than alot of vendors are making $7.50 more than Cabelas on the fee. While I do agree $165 is high, if you need it now, then it is probably worth the price, and we don't know what the cheaper out-of-stock vendor price will be when they do get inventory in.
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If your a Hazmat approved shipper UPS charges $27.50 if your a Hazmat Approved Permit holder UPS charges $20.00. UPS requires a shipper to be Hazmat Approved and to be approved the shipper must attend a class and pass a written test
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If your a Hazmat approved shipper UPS charges $27.50 if your a Hazmat Approved Permit holder UPS charges $20.00. UPS requires a shipper to be Hazmat Approved and to be approved the shipper must attend a class and pass a written test
Thanks for the info Side by Side, that makes sense. Wonder why more companies like MidwayUSA wouldn't want to do the class thing to offer and edge over the competition regarding the price.
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I'm afraid we are going to see a major price adjustment up that will not lower.

Didn't prices take a permanent upturn during the last Obama driven panic the year he was elected?
Consumption is worse now. Many new reloaders and shooters and far
too suppliers trying to supply... guess what happens in a free market?

The only hope I think we have is more suppliers try supplying more
goods to provide pressure to bring prices down. However the
odds of that happening are lower these days due to the extreme difficulty
in starting a new business in the hostile environment the socialists/progressives have caused over the decades with regulation and
taxation.

So to be a Debbie Downer , that leaves you with existing makers pretty much. Unless they are going to expand a lot (again current Taxation and health care policy at the Federal level is HOSTILE to business doing so) there is little 'incentive' to get prices to lower to what we saw a year ago.

I hope I"m full of caca.
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Buzi, that's what I'm afraid of. I didn't think it was a great price, but I'd rather be kicking myself in a few months because the price came down, than be kicking myself in a few months because it was a great price, or because there's none to be found.
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If that's the case than alot of vendors are making $7.50 more than Cabelas on the fee. While I do agree $165 is high, if you need it now, then it is probably worth the price, and we don't know what the cheaper out-of-stock vendor price will be when they do get inventory in.
I'm not saying you're wrong for buying, I'm only saying I wouldn't buy at that price. If I had no powder I would probably try to find 1 lb and hope the prices come down before it's gone.
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I'm afraid we are going to see a major price adjustment up that will not lower.

Didn't prices take a permanent upturn during the last Obama driven panic the year he was elected?
Consumption is worse now. Many new reloaders and shooters and far
too suppliers trying to supply... guess what happens in a free market?

The only hope I think we have is more suppliers try supplying more
goods to provide pressure to bring prices down. However the
odds of that happening are lower these days due to the extreme difficulty
in starting a new business in the hostile environment the socialists/progressives have caused over the decades with regulation and
taxation.

So to be a Debbie Downer , that leaves you with existing makers pretty much. Unless they are going to expand a lot (again current Taxation and health care policy at the Federal level is HOSTILE to business doing so) there is little 'incentive' to get prices to lower to what we saw a year ago.

I hope I"m full of caca.
Actually, prices and availability were returning to normal levels before Newtown. I was buying primers for less than $20/K and powder for less than $20/lb.
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I took a walk through one of the sporting good stores here in Reno today.

They had 8 pounds of red dot and green dot but I passed on it
since I am pretty good on my shotgun powders but I did walk
out with a pound each of Bullseye and Unique for the 38 special.

Sure wish the primers would start to show up.............
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Primers for less than $20/1000. How about picking up 25 boxes of small pistol ship them to me and I'll give you $50 for your efforts and I'll cover shipping and hazmat.
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