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Old 03-20-2013, 11:40 AM
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Before I go and download the software and run it in demo mode for the 14 day trial I was hoping someone could tell me if the software has pistol bullets load data. The description on the website references "factory loads" but I don't see anything about reloading data. I am having a hard time finding reloading data for Remington pistol bullets that I am looking for.

I finally got some bullets in yesterday and was looking for load data for their 9mm .355 124GR FMJ RN bullets. I currently have some Accurate No.7 and Winchester 231 powders but also have some others coming in the next 2-4 weeks. I have a little Winchester AutoComp, Alliant Bullseye, and Alliant Power Pistol on its way. I also looked on LoadData.com and AmmoGuide.com and did not find anything for that particular bullet type. I did find some information for Winchester 124GR FMJ bullets and No.7 powder. Would it be fine to use that information and use the starting load information with my Remington bullets?
124GR WIN FMJ
Starting Load 6.4 grains - 975fps
Max Load 7.5 grains - 1,139fps
34,925psi
COL 1.100

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No, I do not believe it has any load data. Just ballistic 'stuff" which is next to useless for handgun loads.

I have never found any data for Remington ammo or bullets. The only one I try to duplicate is the Golden Saber in 9 mm which I use.

For your regular FMJ round use any of the data for Speer or Hornady or what the Powder companies say for a similar bullet.

I have found Power Pistol to be really good in the 9mm and 40 SW. it has a louder report and flash but it really measures nice and works well.!

I duplicated the 9mm,124 Rem GS with PP based on chronograph readings.
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I am having a hard time finding reloading data for Remington pistol bullets that I am looking for.

I finally got some bullets in yesterday and was looking for load data for their 9mm .355 124GR FMJ RN bullets. I currently have some Accurate No.7 and Winchester 231 powders but also have some others coming in the next 2-4 weeks.
Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.
These days finding 9mm bullets is a win, good for you... As for specific data for a Remington FMJ bullet, not necessary. Load data for any 124gr FMJ bullet works just fine with the Remington bullets. This is why the data is supplied with a starting and max load, so you can accommodate small differences in bullet design. Start low and work up and you will have no need to spend money uselessly.

As for powders, I use a lot of W231 with a 124gr FMJ bullet for the 9mm. Hodgdon has load data doe a 125gr Sierra FMJ bullet that I use all the time with the same bullets you are going to load. The starting load of 4.4gr W231 has cycled every pistol I shot them in and I usually load 4.6gr W231 under those same 124gr FMJ bullets. The max charge weight according to Hodgdon is 4.8gr W231 so the 4.6gr load isn't near the max. Good luck...
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[QUOTE=jayman9207;137102815 I did find some information for Winchester 124GR FMJ bullets and No.7 powder. Would it be fine to use that information and use the starting load information with my Remington bullets?
124GR WIN FMJ
Starting Load 6.4 grains - 975fps
Max Load 7.5 grains - 1,139fps
34,925psi
COL 1.100

Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.[/QUOTE]

I am a bit confused. Were did you obtain the above load data and what powder is it for?? You mention A #7 an W 231 and it is neither of those??

No.7 124 HDY FMJ 7.2 1,026 8.0 1,166 29,800 1.095

125 GR. SIE FMJ HP-38 .355" 1.090" 4.4 1009 24,600 CUP 4.8 1088 28,800 CUP
Load Data Accurate Powders

Cartridge Loads - Hodgdon Reloading Data Center - data.hodgdon.com

What Arch has provided is good to go, he has reliable information
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The above load cam directly from an email from Accurate. I sent them an email last week asking about Missouri Bullets and they sent me back a very long email with data for all of their powders for 9mm bullet types. Here is the section for the No.7 powder from the email they sent me.

Accurate No. 7
95 BARNES TAC-XP 7.0 1,093 8.0 1,242 34,913 1.160
115 NOSLER JHP 6.4 994 7.5 1,127 33,684 1.077
115 SIERRA FMJ 6.7 1,049 7.8 1,171 34,821 1.100
115 (P) BERRY RNDS 7.0 1,047 8.2 1,185 34,933 1.130
115 (P) RAIN RN 5.7 1,027 6.7 1,165 34,399 1.140
115 (P) RAIN HP 5.5 1,018 6.5 1,157 34,675 1.100
115 (L) LC RN 6.3 1,039 7.5 1,178 33,632 1.070
124 HDY XTP 6.2 978 7.3 1,150 34,750 1.060
124 WIN FMJ 6.4 975 7.5 1,139 34,925 1.100
124 REM GS 6.9 1,013 7.9 1,140 34,678 1.145
124 SPEER GDHP 6.4 963 7.4 1,090 34,724 1.105
124 (P) BERRY RN 6.7 997 7.6 1,120 34,312 1.160
124 (P) BERRY HBFP 6.0 948 6.9 1,072 34,627 1.060
124 (P) RAIN HP 6.3 954 7.2 1,080 34,204 1.110
124 (P) RAIN RN 6.7 993 7.7 1,124 34,634 1.160
124 (L) LC RN 5.7 963 6.5 1,086 34,546 1.050
125 SIERRA JHP 5.7 915 6.5 1,035 34,747 1.035
147 REM GS 5.9 872 6.7 986 34,976 1.165
147 SPEER TMJ FN 5.4 835 6.2 948 34,863 1.130
147 (P) RAIN TRN 5.7 867 6.6 984 34,748 1.160
147 (L) LC FP 5.3 878 6.3 996 34,748 1.145
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Well that is just plain weird as it is not the data they have in there little load data manual??

I myself would go by what is in their manual for either the #7 or the HP 38 The Win 124 FMJ is not that different than the Hornady 124 FMJ

The max is only .5gr different

Just for further confusion Speer#14 shows a load for their 124 gr RN for AA #7 of 8.1 to 9.0! which is also the same for the 124 GDHP so I do not "buy" that e mail.
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I just got some Hornady 115GR FMJ RN 9mm bullets in yesterday so I replied to their email reconfirming things for the No. 7 powder as well as asked them about comparable load data for the Hornady bullets. They replied back with yes but start with the starting / safe load levels and work my way up if I need / want to. When I get home I was going to double check my Hornady 9th manual to see what they list and compare it to what Accurate is telling me.

124 WIN FMJ 6.4 975 7.5 1,139 34,925 1.100
115 SIERRA FMJ 6.7 1,049 7.8 1,171 34,821 1.100

That Speer data looks to be a bit high and is a little confusing. I am still waiting for my Speer manual to come in. Thanks for all of your help!
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You seem to be intent on using a fairly slow powder for your 9mm range ammo. When I build JHP ammo for the 9mm I use Longshot which is in the same burn rate range as AA#7 but when making range ammo I don't go nearly as slow with powder choice. If you like Accurate powders I would think AA#5 would be a better choice for the 9mm than AA#7 for range ammo, but that's just me...
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Just remember that every test is just that a test. Every one is going to be different. Speer vs Hornady vs Lyman etc Then there are the powder company tests.

As much as I like and respect Hodgdon (I use a lot of their powders) their load data usually is on the anemic or low end of all the others. But you can not get in trouble using their information. When ther is so much different data for the same bullet, I take the average of all of them and see were it fits in the overall load ranges. Speer "may seem high" but it is what it is, a valid test. OAL also plays a big part in high pressure loads.

I do not use many Speer or Hornady bullets except for some of the HP's. My FMJ range ammo is the same weight and shape as theirs so I have no issues using their data.

I can only speak for HP38, PP, BE and Win Auto Comp I have never used AA #7
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You seem to be intent on using a fairly slow powder for your 9mm range ammo. When I build JHP ammo for the 9mm I use Longshot which is in the same burn rate range as AA#7 but when making range ammo I don't go nearly as slow with powder choice. If you like Accurate powders I would think AA#5 would be a better choice for the 9mm than AA#7 for range ammo, but that's just me...
It is not a matter of being intent on using as much as it is a matter of what I have. I have a 4 pounds of No. 7 and a couple of pounds of W231 currently. That is the main reason. I bought what I could immediately get my hands on.
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In the current situation that's completely understandable. AA#7 will work just fine, I was only saying I prefer different powders. Added bonus, AA#7 is a very good choice for the 40 S&W. (now that HS-7 is no longer available)
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