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Nevada Ed 11-28-2013 11:52 PM

9mm target loads
 
Well at the thanksgiving dinner I found out it is a go..........
my grandson did buy a 9mm auto and wants me to teach him how to reload and also start him off with some loads to test out.

Looks like I will have to blow the dust off the dies and order some supplies and some 115 and 124 copper plated bullets.

I have Bull, Red, 231, green, unique and Sr4756 that should work for our first testing. I will be trying for a power factor of around 125 (1080) for the 115gr bullet.
As mentioned it has been a while since I loaded the 9mm and never target loads.
If any want to pm or share a target load with any of these powders that has worked for them or.............
a minimum loading that worked their action any information would be very helpful and appreciated.

HOPE ALL HAD A GREAT THANKSGIVING.........

I'm stuffed............should have never gone back for that 2nd piece of pie.

M29since14 11-29-2013 12:10 AM

Of the powders you mention I would start with 231. It should work fine for your target loads. If you want something more powerful, I always default to HS6 for 9x19. I can't recommend anything specific based on experience because I normally shoot either jacketed or cast in my 9mm handloads and have comparatively little experience with plated bullets.

Accurate Arms publishes data for plated bullets. You might check out their data if you are having any trouble finding published data. AA5 and AA7 both are pretty fair powders in 9mm.

M3Stuart 11-29-2013 12:28 AM

If you're plated bullets are berry's or Rainier's, then I use lead data.

For example; I recently loaded Rainier 9mm, 115gr plated RN, with 231 in the 4.3 to 4.8gr range as specified in the LEE manual. Hornady manual shows those loads on the low-to-mid range for the jacketed 115gr. 4.3gr was barely enough to work the action. 4.5gr is fine for target shooting.

If you'll go to bullet manufacturer's websites they generally say to use lead data or the low to mid range of the jacketed data for plated bullets.

If you'll search this forum you'll see many threads on plated 9mm loads.

Bkreutz 11-29-2013 12:50 AM

I use Rocky Mountain Reloading 115gr plated RN bullets with 4.7gr W231 and 1.130 OAL, primers are whatever brand I have. I settled on this load after playing with it for a while and decided I liked it the best for my pistol. I load and shoot ~ 1000 to 1200 per week. (it's my retirement job;))

loc n load 11-29-2013 12:50 AM

9mm target/plinking loads
 
I have been shooting my cast RN 124gr over 3.5 of bullseye or 3.8 of 231 since the 70's......both loads are easy on the gun and are accurate.....and you can load a LOT of them with a lb of bullseye or 231. These are "low end" loads, you can step them up if you need more energy.

scooter123 11-29-2013 08:27 AM

Looking in my Lee 2nd of the powders you have the only one I see that will deliver your desired velocity is Bullseye with a start of 4.1/1020 and 4.7/1144 max. at a length of 1.125 inch. It appears that a load of 4.4-4.5 grains should put you right at that 1080 velocity you want. All of your other powders will result in higher velocities than you list. Such as Unique at 5.5/1109 start and 6.3/1244 max and 231 at 4.7/1075 start and 5.1/1167. Yeah, I know, a starting load of 231 will get you there in theory but it's been my experience that starting loads have a lot of round to round velocity variation.

Nick B 11-29-2013 08:37 AM

A 115 fmj on top of 4.8 grains of 231 chrono'd 1134fps out of my Glock 17 . My go to load for 9mm .

Bugkiller99 11-29-2013 09:42 AM

Not to turn the thread sideways , but I wanted say that's it good that your grandson got a. 9. And it's GREAT that he wants to learn reloading from his Grandpa. I see many hours of time together learning, doing, and talking about the many facets of reloading.
May he and you produce many quality rounds and much quality time!

moxie 11-29-2013 09:54 AM

With a 124 RNL cast bullet and 4.3 grs. Bullseye, I get 1121 fps over my chrono. Nice accurate load.

427mach1 11-29-2013 11:09 AM

I loaded some light loads for my wife using 4.8 - 5.2 grains of Unique behind Rainier 115 grain plated bullets. I haven't chronographed them yet but 5.4 grains should give you around 1100 fps out of a 4" barrel according to one of my manuals.

Nevada Ed 12-03-2013 05:29 PM

Thanks for all the info...........
with the 115gr I think I will start out with:
Bull 4,2
Red 4.2
231 4.5
Green 4.5
Unique 5.5
Sr4756 6.0
and see what comes up before going to the 124grs.


Good news is that 1,000 bullets are on their way and should be
here in 2-3 days.

Bad news is that I am surrounded with 6" of snow.
Winter has arrived in Reno Nv. Todays high of 29.

duck32man 12-03-2013 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moxie (Post 137564787)
With a 124 RNL cast bullet and 4.3 grs. Bullseye, I get 1121 fps over my chrono. Nice accurate load.

I use this same load and have had great results.

warhorse302 12-11-2013 12:16 PM

4.3 HP-38 and Berrys 115 RN Reliable and accurate in my 9s

joedaddy 12-11-2013 04:48 PM

I have a small LC9 with a 3.75 inch barrel and have tried several loads with it.

115 grain Berrys plated round nose with 5.0 grains unique gave 980 fps.

124 grain Berry's plated flat nose hollow base with 4.1 grains bullseye gave 950 fps.

Factory rounds out of that pistol are running about 1000 fps so these are pretty comparable.

Enjoy your time with your Grandson-you are a lucky man!

ArchAngelCD 12-11-2013 07:52 PM

I load a lot of 9mm target ammo since there are three of us in the family who shoot a 9mm. I rarely load 115gr bullets but a lot of 124/125gr bullets.

With a 124/125gr lead bullet I charge 4.0gr W231
With a 124/125gr FMJ bullet I charge 4.4gr W231
Neither load is anywhere near the top end of the charge range so they are easy to shoot.

I don't usually load plated bullets but my son did buy a box I loaded for him. I used the same 4.0gr charge of W231 I used with the lead bullets. Hodgdon lists the same exact charge range for a 124gr Berry's plated bullet and a 125gr LRN bullet, 3.9gr to 4.4gr W231.

Remember, those charges are for range ammo, not replica ammo for your carry ammo. They are loaded lighter than most SD ammo.

shield 12-12-2013 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArchAngelCD (Post 137588061)
...I don't usually load plated bullets but my son did buy a box I loaded for him. I used the same 4.0gr charge of W231 I used with the lead bullets. Hodgdon lists the same exact charge range for a 124gr Berry's plated bullet and a 125gr LRN bullet, 3.9gr to 4.4gr W231.

Remember, those charges are for range ammo, not replica ammo for your carry ammo. They are loaded lighter than most SD ammo.

Agree. I mainly shoot 124gr plated, and use 4.1 HP38 (same as W231) for range shooting. Works very well for me.

H Richard 12-12-2013 01:38 PM

I have been using 3.8 gr 231 with the 124 gr cast 9mm and it results in just over 1000 fps. Functions all my 9mm's and very comfortable to shoot.


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