Smith & Wesson Forum

Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > Ammunition-Gunsmithing > Reloading

Notices

Reloading All Reloading Topics Go Here


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 05-25-2015, 01:08 PM
tim c's Avatar
tim c tim c is offline
Member
I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself  
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: cape cod
Posts: 638
Likes: 1,382
Liked 581 Times in 266 Posts
Default I will let this speak for itself

If i should not reload for it I don't want it

IMG_0513.jpg
meaning Glocks not the projectile
__________________
thats wicked pissah

Last edited by tim c; 05-25-2015 at 02:33 PM. Reason: adding too
Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Like Post:
  #2  
Old 05-25-2015, 01:18 PM
tim c's Avatar
tim c tim c is offline
Member
I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself  
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: cape cod
Posts: 638
Likes: 1,382
Liked 581 Times in 266 Posts
Default

Move thread to S&W Semi-autos
__________________
thats wicked pissah
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 05-25-2015, 01:43 PM
rsrocket1 rsrocket1 is offline
Member
I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself  
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: DFW Texas, a free state!
Posts: 755
Likes: 42
Liked 326 Times in 197 Posts
Default

Are you trying to say "should I load a 105g frangible in 40 S&W"?

If the load says it's safe to shoot, it should be safe to shoot. Whether or not it's worthwhile is different.

Personally, I wouldn't trust my life to a 105g frangible for self defense but if that's all I had, it's better than harsh language or a pointed stick.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #4  
Old 05-25-2015, 01:45 PM
tim c's Avatar
tim c tim c is offline
Member
I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself  
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: cape cod
Posts: 638
Likes: 1,382
Liked 581 Times in 266 Posts
Default

no the disclaimer about glocks maybe this needs to go in semi-auto thread
__________________
thats wicked pissah
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 05-25-2015, 02:17 PM
gen3guy gen3guy is offline
Member
I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself  
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 604
Likes: 21
Liked 660 Times in 284 Posts
Default

I can't comment on this particular projectile. I use factory loads for personal defense. I can tell you that I have one of the first Glock 22s ever made. I have fired thousand of my own reloads through that pistol with the original factory barrel and have never had a problem. I consider the stories about substandard chamber strength to be anecdotal at best.
Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Like Post:
  #6  
Old 05-25-2015, 02:52 PM
Mtnfolk325's Avatar
Mtnfolk325 Mtnfolk325 is offline
Member
I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself  
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Bakersfield, CA
Posts: 108
Likes: 683
Liked 142 Times in 53 Posts
Default

I have had my Gen 2 Glock 19 since January 1990, it has had many thousand reloaded rounds put through it in the past 25+ years. I have been reloading for it since the beginning, with no issues. My then 11 year old son double tapped a squib in 1993, the barrel bulged and locked the slide. I was able to knock the slide forward with a block of wood and disassemble it. It was my wife's duty gun that she needed the next day for her shift. I called a co-worker and borrowed a barrel from one of his Glock 19's and she went to work on time. I ordered a barrel from Glock, it was shipped the same day and installed in her gun 3 days later.

In 2001 I sent the G19 back to Glock for an Inspection & re-spring, it was returned re-sprung and with all the current upgraded parts at NO Charge. They even re-sprung all 5 Hi-Caps that I had got when I traded for the gun used, it had been manufactured in November 1989. Pay attention ( which you should be doing anytime you are reloading ) with your reloading practices and when firing your pistol regardless of brand.

Last edited by Mtnfolk325; 05-25-2015 at 10:19 PM.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #7  
Old 05-25-2015, 03:35 PM
colt_saa's Avatar
colt_saa colt_saa is offline
SWCA Member
I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself  
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Cocoa Beach, Florida
Posts: 10,578
Likes: 3,066
Liked 22,545 Times in 5,842 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tim c View Post
no the disclaimer about glocks maybe this needs to go in semi-auto thread
Get rid of the Glocks, Buy a S&W.

Now ignore the disclaimer and shoot this load as much as you want

Problem solved
Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Like Post:
  #8  
Old 05-25-2015, 04:05 PM
Rule3's Avatar
Rule3 Rule3 is offline
Member
I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself  
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Florida
Posts: 22,079
Likes: 10,793
Liked 15,505 Times in 6,794 Posts
Default

Every make of gun says do not use reloads.

The Glock 40 has a pretty loose chamber and is partially supported. (that is why the are reliable and do not jam)

If you stay within load data and do not go crazy, millions of people reload the Glock 40 SW.

If ou load over specs than the case may bulge and you will see it in the brass. Then if that brass is used over and over it gets weak and could crack.

Don't worry about it.
__________________
Still Running Against the Wind
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #9  
Old 05-25-2015, 04:59 PM
SMSgt's Avatar
SMSgt SMSgt is offline
Member
I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself  
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Florida
Posts: 6,604
Likes: 3,378
Liked 9,242 Times in 3,471 Posts
Default

My Sig manual says use of any ammo other than new commercial ammo voids the warranty. My S&W and Glock manuals say the same. It's pretty standard for all makers to include this disclaimer.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 05-25-2015, 05:02 PM
tim c's Avatar
tim c tim c is offline
Member
I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself  
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: cape cod
Posts: 638
Likes: 1,382
Liked 581 Times in 266 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SMSgt View Post
My Sig manual says use of any ammo other than new commercial ammo voids the warranty. My S&W and Glock manuals say the same. It's pretty standard for all makers to include this disclaimer.
BUT NOT A RELOADING MANUAL (Sorry i yelled)
__________________
thats wicked pissah
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #11  
Old 05-25-2015, 05:13 PM
bigggbbruce's Avatar
bigggbbruce bigggbbruce is offline
Member
I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself  
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Where this month?
Posts: 3,604
Likes: 264
Liked 4,215 Times in 1,714 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tim c View Post
BUT NOT A RELOADING MANUAL (Sorry i yelled)
Seems to be a slow bunch..
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #12  
Old 05-25-2015, 05:15 PM
Big Stick Big Stick is offline
Member
I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself  
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 339
Likes: 281
Liked 426 Times in 156 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tim c View Post
BUT NOT A RELOADING MANUAL (Sorry i yelled)
Note that the statement includes the phrase "similar guns", which would likely involve several makes and models from multiple manufacturers, including S&W........because they borrowed the design for the Sigma line from Glock
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 05-25-2015, 05:18 PM
tim c's Avatar
tim c tim c is offline
Member
I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself  
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: cape cod
Posts: 638
Likes: 1,382
Liked 581 Times in 266 Posts
Default

But did not state any other makes.
Just Glock . I don't understand why this is so hard to explain unless book is wrong its there in black and white.
__________________
thats wicked pissah

Last edited by tim c; 05-25-2015 at 05:25 PM. Reason: adding too
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 05-25-2015, 05:38 PM
LoboGunLeather's Avatar
LoboGunLeather LoboGunLeather is offline
US Veteran
I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself  
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Colorado
Posts: 7,520
Likes: 19,278
Liked 32,369 Times in 5,476 Posts
Default

Every US firearms manufacturer I know of, as well as distributors of non-US made firearms, specifically exclude any warranty coverage if reloaded ammunition is used. This is nothing new; it has been this way for several decades.

Without such disclaimers the manufacturer would be assuming liability for any act of stupidity any human is capable of (and we all know the broad range of possibilities, even if we are occasionally surprised).
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 05-25-2015, 05:40 PM
tim c's Avatar
tim c tim c is offline
Member
I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself  
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: cape cod
Posts: 638
Likes: 1,382
Liked 581 Times in 266 Posts
Default

I GIVE UP
__________________
thats wicked pissah
Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Like Post:
  #16  
Old 05-25-2015, 07:01 PM
Rule3's Avatar
Rule3 Rule3 is offline
Member
I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself  
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Florida
Posts: 22,079
Likes: 10,793
Liked 15,505 Times in 6,794 Posts
Default

A lot on manuals and powder companies online say the same thing. It is know as CYA

Do a lot of people own Glocks? Yes

Do a lot of people reload for them? Yes

Is the Browning High Power in 40 SW poorly supported? Yes

Do they load for those? Yes

Did I own a Glock 40? Yes. Did I load for it? Yes. I am still here with all my fingers and the gun is well and alive.

What else can we tell you?
__________________
Still Running Against the Wind
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #17  
Old 05-25-2015, 09:01 PM
Bob T's Avatar
Bob T Bob T is offline
US Veteran
I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself  
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: North Alabama
Posts: 224
Likes: 517
Liked 227 Times in 89 Posts
Default

Loaded 1000s for the G21. Shoot jacketed or plated with the Glock barrel and shoot lead with a KKM Precision barrel with ribbon rifling.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 05-25-2015, 09:04 PM
Yorkie Man Yorkie Man is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 562
Likes: 4
Liked 260 Times in 134 Posts
Default

My 4013 does not have a supported chamber but my 4006 does.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 05-25-2015, 09:51 PM
S&WIowegan S&WIowegan is offline
Member
I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself  
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Iowa
Posts: 4,106
Likes: 14,444
Liked 3,763 Times in 1,784 Posts
Talking

I own Glock 34 and 35 pistols and had a 17 in the past. I run virtually all handloads in them, BUT I use only jacketed, plated or coated bullets. The 34 is accurate with the factory barrel. The 35 factory barrel was junk so I put a Jarvis in it. Jarvis swears you can shoot lead through his barrel. I tried lead and accuracy was poor but it's fine with jacketed.

The primary problem with lead ammo in Glock 40 cal. seems to be lead build-up which then causes extreme pressure which blows out the weak 40 brass.

If you're a good handloader you can probably save enough money vs. buying factory to buy a new Glock if you blow the first one up!
__________________
Bob.
SWCA 1821
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 05-25-2015, 09:54 PM
Big Stick Big Stick is offline
Member
I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself  
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 339
Likes: 281
Liked 426 Times in 156 Posts
Default

Just like the manufacturer of Zombie ammo states it should only be used for "Zombie defense", the editor of that reloading manual is making that blanket statement simply for liability reasons, much like McDonald's coffee cups state: "coffee is hot and may cause burns".....

I guess I shouldn't have bought any of my guns, as somewhere, there is a thread, a manual, or somebody who knows somebody who once heard, that one had a KB......

Just think about all the threads on this site alone...... but, buy whatever firearm you feel safe reloading for. Just don't ever google it for mishaps, KB's or misfires.......
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 05-25-2015, 10:09 PM
Waywatcher's Avatar
Waywatcher Waywatcher is offline
Member
I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself  
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 1,652
Likes: 1,457
Liked 1,489 Times in 570 Posts
Default

Early Glock .40s had unsupported chambers; this situation has been remedied for almost 20 years.

A reloading manual advising caution--no way
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 05-25-2015, 10:51 PM
rwsmith's Avatar
rwsmith rwsmith is offline
Member
I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself  
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: (outside) Charleston, SC
Posts: 30,976
Likes: 41,632
Liked 29,229 Times in 13,816 Posts
Default I feel....

Quote:
Originally Posted by tim c View Post
I GIVE UP

I feel your pain.
__________________
"He was kinda funny lookin'"
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #23  
Old 05-26-2015, 11:35 AM
shil shil is offline
Member
I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself  
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Lansdale, PA
Posts: 619
Likes: 8
Liked 286 Times in 159 Posts
Default

If in doubt, DON'T. With all respect due Glock owners and not to knock the Glock, I never liked those dam* things anyway........... and I'm sure the Glockers out there don't care.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #24  
Old 05-26-2015, 11:55 AM
Arik Arik is offline
Member
I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself I will let this speak for itself  
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Outside Philadelphia Pa
Posts: 16,601
Likes: 7,342
Liked 17,200 Times in 7,303 Posts
Default

I love these threads.

Yes it says don't shoot in Glock. So what? It's for that particular load.
If you want to reload that one particular load and that it then don't use it in a Glock if you feel that way about it. There are many other loads available.

How's this for underwood ammo. DO NOT USE IN A 1911 ..... but Glock is ok!

http://www.underwoodammo.com/10mm-auto/




Isn't there also a warning about NOT using certain loads in a Garand?

DSA, the makers of FALs, some of the toughest rifles around also have a list of what shouldn't be used in their FALs


Last edited by Arik; 05-26-2015 at 12:05 PM.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
You speak American? handejector S&W Antiques 48 02-18-2021 06:22 PM
I don't mean to speak of any U.S. leader butchd The Lounge 18 10-13-2014 08:48 PM
In a Pickle (so to speak) Jessie The Lounge 0 08-04-2014 11:51 AM
If your dog could speak Arik The Lounge 3 12-14-2013 01:40 PM
How to speak to women.... sipowicz The Lounge 34 04-16-2013 12:49 AM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:39 AM.


Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)