Believe me, there is nothing to trim off. We'd have to be stretching cases, to trim to uniform length. I have no intention of trimming below standard trimmed case length. Most are slightly below already. I inspect every finished round, whether it's off the SS press or the Dillon progressive. I use a separate taper crimp die for 9mm & 45 ACP. It's hardly a crimp at all. Gets rid of the expanded mouth to seat the bullet. Just a bit of taper at most. Never a problem, even when cranking these out in high numbers on the Dillon.

And there is diligence & being anal. Nothing wrong with being anal, but telling others they are slipshod or cutting corners is just false. Do this enough, you know fact from fantasy. As LAA noted, go ahead, measure 500 pistol cases & tell me how many are over SAAMI max. Again, 0.001"-0.002" is hardly measurable. It will have zero affect on even a roll crimp. You might see some issue with roll crimp about 0.006", but it a tiny, tiny number. Reloading is NOT precision aerospace, but many want to make it that way, which again is all good.

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To the OP try this, load and shoot 20 or 30 thousand rounds like some of the folks here have done. Measure, trim to exact specs, chamfer each round crimp to exact specs. Then do the same by only cleaning, sorting any visible defects, then load with the same powder, same charge and same OAL. Let us know if you see any difference in accuracy. I am of course referring to straight walled brass. Basically it's your time, your decision.

I wonder why not doing something is so important to some members ... strange.

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Knowledge of specs, physics,...... perhaps.

Or poor practices.

I understand you find my opinion offensive. I don't know what more to say.

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If you feel like your ammo is more accurate by trimming then by all means do so. Its your ammo and your time. Telling folks that have loaded thousands and thousands of rounds successfully that if they don't do it like you do they are slipshod is probably not the best way to get your point across. Not trying to be confrontational but know that there are people on this board that are extremely knowledgable in reloading. In the past there have been people saying if you don't polish your brass with nu finish then top off with a protection polish you are not doing it right. Like I said, it's their brass, their time. There are more ways than one to skin a cat. Just sayin'. Enjoy the forum.

To be honest I don't find it offensive. At least not enough to get upset or anything. No "fanboys", "going back to mothers basement, etc" ........does offend me. I think it's juvenile. Your replies don't say that. In my mind, when it comes to some of the caliber sizes I'm referring too, I just don't consider it skipping steps, when I feel the step doesn't need to be there in the first place.

You know, I've also been reloading since the late 1960's, so spare me the sermon. I've long lost track of how many bullets I've cast or rounds I've reloaded.

What I said was if you don't check the length, you don't know. Period. That is not incorrect.

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As stated it is your ammo, if want to trim then by all means do so. Telling people if they don't do it your way they are slipshod is not going to set well with some of the folks that are considered very knowledgeable here. I am truly sorry you felt that was a sermon, I was merely trying save you some grief.

Technically, I would be checking the length of every round I make. As I said, all go through a case gauge or barrel test. Every last one.

I don't normally trim my pistol brass, I may check it with a case gauge once in awhile if I think press feels different when I start a new batch.

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No Al, this is what you said. I dont meed to measure 10,000 cases to know that they dont stretch. Not slipshod, just not anal.

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You people are all careless and shooting dangerous ammo.

NOBODY IS CLEANING THE PRIMER POCKETS ! ! ! Really, where is your attention to detail? And whatever happened to CLEANLINESS?

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