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Old 01-13-2017, 08:12 PM
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I just purchased a rifle in this caliber. The problem is none of my books contain data for it. Do any of y'all know where I can find data for it or data for a comparable ctg, like 6x45 AI or .223 AI? I don't want to use 6x45 data because the case capacities are different. Thanks for the help.

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The Thompson/Center Ugalde, or TCU family of wildcat cartridges based on the .223 case. I loaded for the 7mm.. here is one post I found on the 6. Handloading & Bench Testing The 6mm TCU Virgin Valley Contender Barrel
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6mm TCU data is available in the Lee Modern Reloading handbook and also I found it in the Sierra Handgun Reloading manual 50th Edition.
Data is also available online for the 6mm TCU on the Hodgdon Reloading Data Center under pistol data.
I shoot the 7 TCU regularly. Lots of fun benched out of a Contender.

What type of rifle have you got?
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6mm TCU data is available in the Lee Modern Reloading handbook and also I found it in the Sierra Handgun Reloading manual 50th Edition.
Data is also available online for the 6mm TCU on the Hodgdon Reloading Data Center under pistol data.
I shoot the 7 TCU regularly. Lots of fun benched out of a Contender.

What type of rifle have you got?
Awesome, thank you. The two of the manuals I don't have...go figure.

Just picked up a Rem 788 that has been rebarreled for $345. Still need a magazine ($60 on ebay...ugh) and a scope. I'll probably put this together in a few months, as I have some projects to keep me occupied for the near future. I just couldn't pass up that rifle at that price.
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Hornady manual has data in the pistol section.
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Hornady 8th Edition , p. 793 in the handgun section. There was no data in rifle section, but this would be a place to start.
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The 6x47 is based on the 222 magnum brass and start loads could be based on that as well. I believe the 6 TCU has more of a blown out shoulder than the 6mm/223 but data is out there for that as well. Just don't start with max loads. I shoot a 7 TCU and know that it and the 6.5 we much loved in the day.
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The online source I like is Ammoguide Interactive. It requires a small dues each year but I'll bet there isn't a cartridge out there for which data can't be found. They have a demo function you can use to see if you would like it.

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FWIW, there are some loads listed in the ACCURATE ARMS LOADING GUIDE #1 published in '94 if you need some additional powders.
I shot the .30 X .223 Apache in both rifle and handgun silhouette, using slower powders in the rifle than in the handguns.
My only caution is to start low and increase real SLOOOOW!
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I was able to find some data in a few places in the handgun sections, after I remembered it was designed as a silhouette handgun ctg.

comparing Hodgdon's 6 TCU and 6x47 data, the TCU is hotter!

Since I'm new to forming brass, what steps so I need to take?
I was thinking it was like this:

1. Neck expand fired .223
2. FL size
3. Anneal (not necessary)
4. Light charge and fireform
5. Neck resize
6. Trim
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OR you could do it the easy way - fire .223 REM ammunition in your 6mm T/C-U chamber. Presto - out comes fire-formed brass ready to resize and load. I did 100 cases for my 7mm T/C-U that way and lost none of them.

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I used to shoot 7TCU in Metalic Silhouette some years back, and still have a 7X30 Waters barrel for my TC. I had often heard the 6TCU would make a good benchrest cartridge. Sounds like you have been given a lot of info to follow up on. Let us know your results.
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I also have a 7mm T/C-U barrel for my T/C Super 14 Contender although I loaded mine with 120-grain hollow-points for windy day groundhog hunting. The 6.5s and more lately the 6mms have taken over the benchrest world and I see Hornady is now releasing a 6mm Creedmoor.

One of my technicians used to shoot at the Original Pennsylvania 1,000-yard Benchrest Club north of Williamsport and back in the 1980s, the 7mm and .300 magnums were all the rage up there. Today, I hear the 6mms and 6.5s rule the roost.



Having just obtained a Ruger Precision Rifle in 6.5 Creedmoor, I now have that caliber covered pretty well as I also have rifles in .260 REM and 6.5-.284 Norma. It's funny how the 6.5mm cartridges were so ignored stateside while they were and continue to be the darlings of European hunters of game as large as moose.

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In 7TCU I go ahead and fireform my brass with full charge load. It will hold a full charge of powder anyway and I can't tell the difference. I'm sure 6TCU is the same way.
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