Do any of you use Load data and is it worth the 34.95 a year subscription for reloading pistols. I don't reload for rifles

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No. And no

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Every year take that $35 subscription fee and buy yourself another hand-loading manual.

These manuals will be yours FOREVER with no additional cost.

Plus you will not be relying on load data posted by anonymous Internet sources.

Internet load data sites (unless factory sponsored) AND asking for load data advice are NOT substitutes for MANUALS from the Mfgs!

I have 6 manuals already and use the powder manufacturer websites, was just looking for more information, can't have to much if you won't to safe. I am trying some 148 gr. X-Treme dewc and am having trouble finding date for plated wc, lots for hbwc.

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No, but since the manuals rarely use the bullets most home reloaders use and might not even be using common firearms (test chamber/barrel), it can be quite helpful to hear from someone else the results they got with a bullet you want to use in a similar firearm. Instead of developing a load from scratch, you can use your manuals and/or powder manufacturer web site to verify the load is within limits and then just verify for yourself that it performs as advertised.

I wouldn't pay $35/yr for that, but I do quite a bit of googling when I'm curious what others have done with a given load or when going off-books like 9mm WST loads.

The "secret" to plated is to stay off the ultra-light lead data to avoid sticking a bullet. DEWC lead 148gr data translates to 3.2gr HP38 for plated, for example, which I use. If you read all the plated mfgr site data and cautions, you soon get the idea that plated is fine if you stay off the max and min lead data.

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I found an app called reloading assistant. It has a lot of load data in it.

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Yes I have that app to thank you

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I have had a subscription to Loaddata for 3 years now. I like it alot. All loads are referenced to their source (almost always powder, and bullet mfgs). I would never use this or any other any other data without cross referencing to stated source and other manuals. Loaddata is like having all the manuals at your disposal and the data is amended and added daily. I also get a subscription to Handloader magazine thru their website. So yeah, to me it is worth it.

....or does it work on PC. I'll take any data I can get, but tempered alongside published stuff.

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IDK about pc I just have it on my android phone.

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Just got to my manuals, it looks like you use the data for LHBWC is that correct


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I have used Load Data for a number of years and like it. As was stated they use a lot of the powder and bullet manufactures data. They also use any load data from articles out of Handloader magazine. But they don't publish any loads off the internet. It seems like some of the bullet companies (Sierra for example) no longer give them their data. If you are going to use it for just handgun data $35 is pretty spendy. I don't buy as many loading manuals any more. But with the loading manuals you have them for good, whereas if you terminate the service you don't have anything. If a handloader is going to buy just one loading manual probably the 50th edition of the Lyman manual would be the one.

Used one for awhile, didn't renew. After awhile you settle into some favorites and quit experimenting. I hardly ever change my loads now and I know what works for me. Some powder is still hard to find so it doesn't make much sense anymore, for me anyway.

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Not sure why there would be a difference, but I pay $30/year for Load Data subscription. And the scarcity of powder was exactly why I signed up. I had to adjust my loading according to what was available at the time.

I understand today's thinking about electronic information/data, but what's wrong with plain old reloading manuals? I can take them anywhere, don't have to flip between websites to compare, and am confident I'm getting reliable information/data. I found in 30+ years of reloading that it's best, for me at least, to pay very little attention to any forum expert, range rat, gun counter clerk, pet loads website, or gun shop guru. 99% of my reloading dta has come from published reloading manuals. Nope, I'm not a dinosaur and anti-new technology (I spend a good bit of time on one of my computers), jes wondering why folks ask for websites or data and not consult probably the best source; books.

Looked at it - not worth it for me. Instead bought me Hornady 10th edition

I wouldn't. I have a collection of reloading manuals extending from the 1950s (and some even older) up to perhaps the 1990s. Plus all of the powder manufacturers reloading data is available absolutely free on the internet. Personally I can see no need to pay for a reloading recipe service. Even though it is not recommended as a source of reloading data, I occasionally use the internal ballistics computer program Quickload.

I agree with this. I know the first thing experienced people say is "buy manuals". Back in the day that was the best course of action, but in today's world, you can definitely get by with just internet.

The only manuals I have are out-dated obsolete ones from decades ago that came with my reloading outfit. I have started reloading since, am quite good at it right now, and have never purchased an updated manual.

I have found ALL the info I have ever needed by internet and google. Need to know a certain load using 140grXTP and say 2400 in 357mag? Just google those words and you will find what you need. All those people who spent money on those manuals have no problem sharing that information.

Powder manufacturers mostly have info available for free, however, they are usually only for one type of bullet. All bullet manufacturers want you to buy their manuals, so they are not available for free. If you use a wide variety of bullet makes, then you would need a wide variety of manuals. Like I said, many people already have these manuals and have been sharing that info and answering questions for years online. I will save my money when it comes to manuals.

This might just be me though.

That's a pretty naïve and inexperienced approach to handloading data. There is good, safe data available on the Internet, particularly if it's on a powder or bullet manufacturer's website. But there is bad and/or potentially dangerous data as well from many dubious sources, particularly that put out by self-anointed "experts" who have been handloading just long enough to know everything.

With regard to the load data website from Wolfe Pub. that contains data from HANDLOADER magazine, some of that is quite dated. While it is likely safe, it's wise to check the data against current reputable sources; some powder charges may be different today. This is just one area where real paper handloading manuals prove to be invaluable. Have enough of them on hand and you should be able to reference and cross-reference most of what you need to know.

For the serious, safety-oriented handloader, manuals are a valuable source and cheap insurance.

Agreed. I usually glance at powder manufacturer data online when I'm just farting around or writing a post or something.

I just got Lyman's 50th Edition, which is where I start with at the bench. That gets cross-referenced to Lee's 2nd Edition, bearing in mind that some of the Lee's 2nd is kind've strange.

I have an online source or two that I'll use for cases where the load data itself is really strange, but they always get cross-referenced to the printed stuff and what the powder manufacturers say.

I never load without multiple data sources. A manual or two is cheap peace of mind, and does things I can't do with internet data--like sit with me at my bench, or accompany me on trips to the shop.

Even beyond just finding appropriate starting/max data, cross-referencing everything makes it easy to pick a starting load that will, say, cycle an automatic, instead of having to waste 25 loadings laddering my way up.

All that said, while LoadData.com would be nice, I can't justify the price. It doesn't tell me anything my preferred sources can't, and just from searching around, it has less than what I currently have access to.

I have subscribed to Ammoguide Interactive for perhaps 10 years and refer to it now and then. You'll find data there for obscure or very new recipes that you can't find in printed media. The subscription price is much less than I'm seeing posted here for other sources - how much you pay for Ammoguide is based upon when you joined as you pay the same price for life. I think I pay $16.95 per year.

And as far as the data being trustworthy, it's easy to pick out a left-field recipe from all the rest so I've never worried about that.

Ammoguide has a demo feature so you can try it before you buy it.

Ed

In 30 years + of reloading I have not been able to find more than one bullet not listed in a manual, if I just looked. The one bullet is a Lachmiller 160 gr. SWC. Every jacketed bullet I've used in 14 different cartridges have been listed with appropriate data...

I've seen no data for X-treme plated at all especially the plated dewc


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I have been using Load Data for many of the same reasons others here have for the past seven years and will continue to do so.

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When I had this "problem" I went to the manufacturer's website. But, I read to load with lead data, so the loads were in my manuals...