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Speer 240 JSP for $.14
Just noticed Midway is selling the newly stocked Speer 240 JSP (FP) for $.14 apiece.
Speer has not been selling any of their 44 bullets for quite awhile except the plated SD numbers, notably the 200gr 44 special GDHP.
I hope this means that maybe they will resurrect the 270 JSP that shot so well in the 444.
$.14 is pretty dang cheap for a jacketed major brand 44 bullet.
Mine are on the way.
Speer Bullets 44 Cal (429 Diameter) 240 Grain Jacketed Soft Point Box
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Why would you post **** like this! 600 bullets and 100 starline brass and now I'm out 122 bucks! Thanks for the heads up, from one badgerlander to another!
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01-20-2017, 02:47 PM
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You got me too! Couple boxes of these + a few other odds and ends=$100
Guess I'm doing my part to keep the economy going.
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Header says Jacketed Soft Point but the item description below says Hollow Cavity . Which is it ? Could have picked a better looking bullet for their picture, that one has an odd chunk of lead hanging off the top .
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I also noticed that this is a "one time deal".
That may mean this is a factory clear-out.
I had hoped this indicated Speer getting back into the main stream 44 bullet business.
For the price you can use whatever they send for plinking.
That's my plan.
Midway just had most of Hornady's 44 bullets as seconds for sale.
They weren't that good a deal and don't appeal to me much.
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Missed it. Just checked. Out of stock. Shucks.
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Header says Jacketed Soft Point but the item description below says Hollow Cavity . Which is it ?
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Speer #14 lists #4457 as a JSP.
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They must have found some more.... they were in stock just now when I placed an order.
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For jacketed soft points, I've had good luck with these:
Roze Distribution: 44 Magnum (.431 diameter)
Being .431 they work great in my 24-3 that has slightly over sized throats.
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They must have found some more.... they were in stock just now when I placed an order.
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Thanks. I rechecked and placed an order.
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I just bought 400 myself
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I got mine tonight and loaded some up under some 300-MP and will be heading to the range tomorrow to see how my Smith 69 likes them!
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I got mine today also. Been using 240gr Hornady XTP's but for way less money these should work just as good. I'll be loading these with 2400 for my Super Redhawk. I also threw in a set of 357 Sig dies in the order so I'll probably start working on those since I've already got a bunch of 44's loaded.
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This is looking more like a factory clearance due to the fact Midway is doing the boxing.
And the price.
Normally these would have come in a Speer box.
Midway bought a railcar full, maybe all there are, and is putting them in nice plastic boxes.
Doesn't sound like business as usual.
Ordered a few more 100.
And Eddie is right. The bullets look nothing like the picture.
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My 400 showed up today. Look like they will shoot just fine. Anyone care to share their favorite Unique load for these? I have a couple #. Also looking for a recommended load for my 1894 Marlin in .44mag.
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So I guess I will try and answer my own questions.
Speer #14 shows 9.2 - 10.3 Unique for this bullet in a revolver. No load listed with Unique for my lever gun though. Any thoughts on why?
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6 Grains Unique in a 44 special for a nice normal accurate round
7 grains for a high end top velocity and pressure load in 44 special.
8 grains in a 44 magnum for a nice target/small game load.
9-10 grains for a top velocity and pressure load in 44 magnum.
Just because Speer starts at 9 grains doesn't mean you can't go lower with Unique in the magnum.
Lever guns for revolver rounds are usually rated for those same rounds.
They are not all that much stronger than the best revolvers.
Just use your magnum revolver load.
The slower powders like 2400 or 296 will show more velocity gain from the long barrel than Unique.
The maximum standard load for the 44 magnum both in handgun and rifle is 24 grains 296 under a 240 JHP/JSP.
There is no real need for a special lever rifle load unless you want to tweak it slightly (by going LOWER) for accuracy.
You certainly don't want to put an overpressure rifle round in one of your fine revolvers by accident.
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Quote:
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6 Grains Unique in a 44 special for a nice normal accurate round
7 grains for a high end top velocity and pressure load in 44 special.
8 grains in a 44 magnum for a nice target/small game load.
9-10 grains for a top velocity and pressure load in 44 magnum.
Just because Speer starts at 9 grains doesn't mean you can't go lower with Unique in the magnum.
Lever guns for revolver rounds are usually rated for those same rounds.
They are not all that much stronger than the best revolvers.
Just use your magnum revolver load.
The slower powders like 2400 or 296 will show more velocity gain from the long barrel than Unique.
The maximum standard load for the 44 magnum both in handgun and rifle is 24 grains 296 under a 240 JHP/JSP.
There is no real need for a special lever rifle load unless you want to tweak it slightly (by going LOWER) for accuracy.
You certainly don't want to put an overpressure rifle round in one of your fine revolvers by accident.
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Thank you sir. Exactly the information I was looking for.
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8 grains in a 44 magnum for a nice target/small game load.
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Thanks again Nemo. I loaded some up with a nice crimp and I was very impressed. Easy shooting and accurate. My wife is going to like shooting this load as well.
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I see so little Speer stuff....
...I was thinking that they were 'floating along' making a few products and getting ready to close up. I used to be able to buy all the Speer stuff I wanted anytime I wanted. Now you can't find anything and if you do, it's not what you want. I bought some Gold Dots from a forum member because I hadn't seen any in years in the caliber I wanted, much less the weght.
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They are part of a giant conglomerate company.
Handloading supplies are a very small part of their business.
More than likely someone decided they had bigger fish to fry and we got left in the dust.
I still suspect the only bullets Speer is currently making are the ones that go in their ammo.
Remington has also been clearing the decks when it comes to components and some calibers of ammo.
Heck they have just about completely destroyed Marlin since acquiring them.
Guys like Hornady, Starline, and many other bullet makers are picking up the slack and expanding their offerings.
It's all part of the business cycle normal to capitalism.
I am going to try some of the Zero .431" bullets in the 444 for instance.
If someone was to offer LBT style bullets that are powder coated I would be all over that as well.
I do believe we are currently in a golden age for handloaders.
Never before have so many different powders been available.
You can usually get just about any bullet you want and brass is there but for the extremely rare and obscure calibers.
I don't think too many are really going to miss Speer for long.
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