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OK, I can see that. I have never thought of using a turret press to make one cartridge at a time, rotating from station to station. I use my turret presses as single stations: sizing a batch of cases, then priming the batch, expanding the batch etc. I like the control I get when I repeat the same action over and over again.
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In actuality, using the LTC in auto index mode DOES repeat the same action over and over. The action sequence is very repetitive but just a little longer over four strokes of the handle instead of one. When I reload with auto index ( as I do 98% of the time) I can "feel" if something just wasn't right in the sequence because it is so repetitive.
i.e. The control is very similar but there is significant time savings in the lack of having to handle each case 4x as often.
I'd suggest it's worth a try if your press will do it.
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I don't think my rock chucker Supreme can be converted to a turret press but I am looking into getting a new turret press, just not sure which one or manufacturer? I don't want to spend a lot of money but would like something of lasting quality.
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03-11-2017, 08:23 PM
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I got rid of my television set in 1987 have had plenty of time to reload on a single stage press since then. And read books talk to my wife work in the yard etc.
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I always wanted a Rock Chucker but my RCBS Junior still works.
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x2.......Mine too......Old but still use it for rifle ammo.....
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batch method?
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Batch method (I call it my coffee can method):
Do everything one step at a time, completing everything before going on to the next step in the process.
I frequently resize 1500 to 2500 pistol cases at a time. Then I decap and neck-expand all of them. Then I will prime them all. When I want ammo all I need to do is decide how many I want, charge with powder, seat bullets and I am done.
The time savings comes in not having to constantly be setting up and adjusting dies, powder measure, etc, for each box or two of ammo.
Saturday evening I resized 2000 rounds of .38 Special. Sunday evening I decapped and neck-expanded. This evening I primed. Couple of hours each evening, now I can load 5-600 each evening and by the end of the week I'll have .38 Special range ammo for the next year or so.
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Owned several presses and spent a bunch on the required shell holders. Got tired of primers/primer residue all over the press, bench and loading area. Learned that the die and shell holder could "float" (self align) so the projectile is concentric to the case neck when its seated. And the floating-jaw shell holder that comes with the press fitted all the calibers I Hand Loaded.
Consider the Forster Co-Ax press.
Forster Co-Ax(R) Press within AccurateShooter.com
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Late to the party, but I my first press was the RCBS Jr. and I'm still using it (53 years later). I really longed for a A-2 like all the gunwriters had back in the mid 60's, but by the time I could afford one it had been replaced with the Rockchucker. I bought one of them and the 2 are on my bench and both used. I sometimes will load several hundred rounds at a time, but not often enough to make me want to buy a progressive.
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Have been running single stage since 1962. I was given a Dillon a few years back, but it's still in the box. I'm not in a hurry and I want complete control over the process. So I put on a Great Courses CD and let the world go by.
Sometimes less is more.
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Got a few ole Rock Chuckers, did the batch thing one setup to size, one to seat, other to taper crimp, progressives were out of my reach in those years, still use the Ole RC's, brass forming, making 22 cal bullets out of .22lr cases. Redding BB2, progressives, Pro7's, LNL AP, Dillons, but somehow go back to the RC.
To each their own I guess, what you want vs. what you need, progressives are nice, convenient, fast, etc. if setup properly.
just my 2 bits worth..
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I was wondering what other people had for casual loading.
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RCBS Reloader Special. Bought it in 1979 and still using it today.
I usually reload cartridges in batches of 50. I may do multiple batches one right after another, but always small batches so that I can get a feel for each round as I handle it and load it.
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A turret press helps only with die set up - you do it once and then they stay in place ready to be used at any moment.
Otherwise a turret press is like a single stage, you pull the handle once for each operation: resize, expand, seat, crimp and of course you add powder.
A progressive press does all those operations with one pull of the handle, that is where it's speed comes from.
To recap: a turret press saves time only in die set up, it does not make the actual reloading process any faster.
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Amen - I've tried to make this very point several times, but this post is the best description I've seen.
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I use my Rockchucker for all decapping and all the assembly steps, except primer seating, for load development and for bottleneck rifle rounds. I find it to be rock solid, makes very accurate rounds.
The only thing I don't like is the stupid tray to catch the spent primers. Usually, more than half the primers accumulate outside the tray, in all the crevices around it and on the floor.
For bulk loading of proven pistol rounds, I use a Hornady LNL.
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I/am still using a Lyman All American my Dad bought back in the sixties its loaded everything from 22 hornet to 45-70. I'm just setting it up for 45 auto rim. Didn't have the shell holder for the auto rim. But they make a conversion for it at Midway USA to use modern shell holder and ext. priming post too. Have no desire to upgrade to progressive. I enjoy using this. I'm in no hurry.
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I started out in the early 80's with and still use my Rockchucker for most of my loading. Purchased a Dillon 650 a few years back when I was shooting a lot of bullseye, using it for the 45acp. A beautiful press for kicking out shells quickly but I still enjoy the time that I spend on the Rockchucker. Like they say, it is all part of the hobby. Need to get into casting.
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I never saw the attraction to a turret press--to me, they were just die storage units.
However, an auto-indexing Lee at least means that, while you'll pull the handle just as often, you'll get a loaded round after four pulls of the handle--thus, instead of sizing 400 cases, you can produce 100 rounds of ammo.
Still, not what I consider worth the money, but there is some logic to it.
That is why when someone asks for a press recommendation, I tell that what I like and why and then tell them to determine what THEY like and why and get that press.
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It's all I use and all I ever intend to use.
I'm not gonna rely on a machine to make sure the powder drop is correct.
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.....and there Sir, is the bottom line.
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I'm not gonna rely on a machine to make sure the powder drop is correct.
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.....and there Sir, is the bottom line.
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I would go even further: do not rely on the gun to deliver the bullet to the target, instead go and make the hole yourself. I do not want any technical devices between me and having holes in the target.
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