Recommend a .45 ACP for my 625 PC

[Eberhart]

Looking for a 200 gr SWC. Does brand matter? All they all sized to .452? Thanks in advance.

[Hasbeen1945]

I know you said SWC. I like the coated RNFP from Missouri. One of the new 625's either the JM or the PC is not supposed to do well with lead. But as I understand it the coating solves the problem. I use HP 38.

[OKFC05]

I prefer the 200gr Plated TC in .45.
I consider a plain lead SWC to be a major PIA in .45 revolver, and while I proved to myself it can be done, the question remains, why bother?

[Eberhart]

I think its the JM due to the type of rifling.

[Redford]

It was my understanding the JM was designed for lead sense that's what he shoots

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[rockquarry]

I'm not familiar with "PC" in regards to S&W revolvers. What is it?

I have several S&W .45 ACP / Auto Rim revolvers. All shoot lead .452" SWCs (and some other cast bullets) quite accurately. I suppose my 25-2 is my most accurate revolver; don't know if it's ever had a jacketed bullet fired in it.

[Eberhart]

625 Performance Center

[fredj338]

If shooting in any speed type competition, swc are really slow to load. A 230gr lrn or lrn coated, sized 0.452", is fast to reload & accurate in my 625.

[ontargetagain]

Sure, I have a 625-4 in 5", I have shot a lot of different bullets through it but this latest from Missouri I have take a liking too:
Bullseye #1-Grooveless
.452 Diameter
.45 ACP
200 Grain SWC - Grooveless
12 Brinell if for target bump up if you want to run them above about 850 or so to the 18 Brinell
They have been shooting great in my 625 as well as my Shield 45.
Karl

[m657]

I've spend pounds of primers & maybe tons of various projectile material on a long series of 625/PC & not.

Have never really established clear advantage of one accuracy over the other, yet the SWC does give more issue now & then for 'fast reloads'.

I like the 200/230 grain RN or FN for range games.

I prefer RNL 200/230 over SWC as well.

[OKFC05]

Originally Posted by Redford

It was my understanding the JM was designed for lead sense that's what he shoots

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Neither JM nor any serious competitor I've met with a clip-fed revolver shoots SWC because the whole idea of being clip fed is fast reloads and that isn't happening with SWC. RN, TC, FP, all work better than anything with a sharp shoulder. The plain lead is a different issue than the shape, because the waxy lube usually used on plain lead produces a cloud of smoke when shooting rapid fire.
Lots of competitors use plated or coated pointy bullets, but FMJ ball still works too.

[S&WIowegan]

I have shot matches with Jerry Miculek on his squad. I can assure you he does not shoot lead bullets during competitive matches. I remember very clearly at the American HandGunner shootoffs in Colorado he was shooting Hornady XTP bullets in his handloads. He won the overall championship one year revolver vs. a semiauto race gun.

Todd Jarrett walked up to me at the USPSA Nationals one year, saw I was shooting lead. He shook his head and said: "You can't see a thing with lead in your gun". I have been at matches with high humidity and no wind where the smoke hung in the air badly.

[BLUEDOT37]

Originally Posted by Eberhart

625 Performance Center

The 625PC has broached rifling. The 625JM has EDM/ECM rifling.

My 625PC & 325TR have .452" throats & I like to use Xtreme's heavy plated bullets (in 45AR cases) as they're sized .4526" .

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[Wise_A]

If you just want a cheap bullet, Missouri Bullets and Summers Enterprises do that pretty well. MBC bullets are even reasonably accurate.

If you're shooting a precision sport, Zero makes a very nice LSWC, at what's frankly a bargain price for match bullets.

Roze Distribution: 45 Acp (.452 Diameter) - 185 GR SWC,2,000 to 9,999

[at_liberty]

Originally Posted by Redford

It was my understanding the JM was designed for lead sense that's what he shoots

The PC is for lead. My JM leads badly.

[Redford]

Originally Posted by at_liberty

The PC is for lead. My JM leads badly.

This is out of a review I read on the 625-8
Still, revolver expert Jerry Miculek opines that this new model has been improved, with several subtle changes making the gun more competitive in the Practical Shooting arena. Miculek is beyond question the fastest double-action shooter of his time or, probably ever. He said he had been after Smith & Wesson for years to make several changes, including:

• The rifling of the 625-8 is designed for lead bullets.

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[fredj338]

Originally Posted by S&WIowegan

I have shot matches with Jerry Miculek on his squad. I can assure you he does not shoot lead bullets during competitive matches. I remember very clearly at the American HandGunner shootoffs in Colorado he was shooting Hornady XTP bullets in his handloads. He won the overall championship one year revolver vs. a semiauto race gun.

Todd Jarrett walked up to me at the USPSA Nationals one year, saw I was shooting lead. He shook his head and said: "You can't see a thing with lead in your gun". I have been at matches with high humidity and no wind where the smoke hung in the air badly.

Coated lead, totally diff though.

[Wee Hooker]

200 gr coated and plated are my go to 45 bullets these days. SWC profile if I'm looking for clean , easy to see holes in paper. TFP or RN if I'm looking for loading speed. I'm using Missouri and Xtreme for 95% of my loads.
I don't miss the lead/lube smoke and clean-up at all.