Smith & Wesson Forum

Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > Ammunition-Gunsmithing > Reloading
o

Notices

Reloading All Reloading Topics Go Here


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-20-2017, 04:41 PM
elpac3's Avatar
elpac3 elpac3 is offline
Member
Range repot Barnes TTSX 130 grain .270 load test Range repot Barnes TTSX 130 grain .270 load test Range repot Barnes TTSX 130 grain .270 load test Range repot Barnes TTSX 130 grain .270 load test Range repot Barnes TTSX 130 grain .270 load test  
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Mpls, Minnesota
Posts: 867
Likes: 87
Liked 967 Times in 398 Posts
Default Range repot Barnes TTSX 130 grain .270 load test

Came by some Barnes TTSX 130 grain in .270 in case the need would arise to have a lead free bullet.

Tested the bullets seated at .010, .057, .099 and .115 off the lands in a Parker Hale 1200 with a Nikon ptostaff 5 mildot scope off the bench at 100 yards using reloader 16 powder.

Seat. Spread. Closest two. Vert. Spread. Horz. Spread
.010. 2.5". 1.3". 1.25". 2.1"

.057. 2.25". .88". .6". 2.5"

.099. 1.62". .85". .5". 1.5"

.115. .75". .47". .5". .5"


Found the trends interesting. Was going to chronograph the load but the chrono went tango uniform at the range this morning. This is pretty much opposite the data for the Speer 130 boat tail which like to touch the lands for the best accuracy.

This is also opposite from the TSX 140 grain bullet which shot best when seated about .040 off the lands.

Moral of the story seems to be generalizations about seating the "new" copper bullets far off the lands will hold true in some weight bullets but not for others even though the bullets would seem to be similar even when fired from the same rifle.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #2  
Old 03-20-2017, 05:09 PM
Fishinfool's Avatar
Fishinfool Fishinfool is offline
Member
Range repot Barnes TTSX 130 grain .270 load test Range repot Barnes TTSX 130 grain .270 load test Range repot Barnes TTSX 130 grain .270 load test Range repot Barnes TTSX 130 grain .270 load test Range repot Barnes TTSX 130 grain .270 load test  
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Central PA
Posts: 4,550
Likes: 8,201
Liked 11,436 Times in 3,018 Posts
Default

I am a fan of the old Nosler Partition bullet, but I did experiment with the Barnes TXS bullet in an accurate 35 Whelen I own. Like you, I found accuracy was very dependent on seating depth, more so than with any cup & core bullets in that rifle.

That might be a big factor with those who have reported poor accuracy with Barnes solids in their rifles.

Larry
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-20-2017, 06:08 PM
elpac3's Avatar
elpac3 elpac3 is offline
Member
Range repot Barnes TTSX 130 grain .270 load test Range repot Barnes TTSX 130 grain .270 load test Range repot Barnes TTSX 130 grain .270 load test Range repot Barnes TTSX 130 grain .270 load test Range repot Barnes TTSX 130 grain .270 load test  
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Mpls, Minnesota
Posts: 867
Likes: 87
Liked 967 Times in 398 Posts
Default

I have shot both Speer and Nosler ballistic tips with great success. With the newer ballistic tip nosler has changed the bullet profile and bullet length slightly making my old bullet seating data pretty much out of date.

I am going to do some work-ups with the "new" ballistic tips and want to give the 130 accubonds a try as well. With the Nosler partitation being a shorter bullet they should well from the old .270
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-20-2017, 07:09 PM
rockquarry rockquarry is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 7,552
Likes: 4
Liked 8,885 Times in 4,121 Posts
Default

I assume "spread" is overall group size?

You are very right about generalizations; every gun and chamber is different. I've found some Barnes TSX bullets need to be seated way out for best accuracy in a particular rifle, in sharp contrast to suggestions in the Barnes manuals. Some shot best seated quite deeply in other guns.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-20-2017, 08:01 PM
elpac3's Avatar
elpac3 elpac3 is offline
Member
Range repot Barnes TTSX 130 grain .270 load test Range repot Barnes TTSX 130 grain .270 load test Range repot Barnes TTSX 130 grain .270 load test Range repot Barnes TTSX 130 grain .270 load test Range repot Barnes TTSX 130 grain .270 load test  
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Mpls, Minnesota
Posts: 867
Likes: 87
Liked 967 Times in 398 Posts
Default

Correct.

Spread is the overall group size, closest two shots than horizontal spread and vertical spread
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-20-2017, 08:17 PM
slickracer slickracer is offline
Member
Range repot Barnes TTSX 130 grain .270 load test Range repot Barnes TTSX 130 grain .270 load test Range repot Barnes TTSX 130 grain .270 load test Range repot Barnes TTSX 130 grain .270 load test Range repot Barnes TTSX 130 grain .270 load test  
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 746
Likes: 2,968
Liked 560 Times in 272 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fishinfool View Post
I am a fan of the old Nosler Partition bullet, but I did experiment with the Barnes TXS bullet in an accurate 35 Whelen I own. Like you, I found accuracy was very dependent on seating depth, more so than with any cup & core bullets in that rifle.

That might be a big factor with those who have reported poor accuracy with Barnes solids in their rifles.

Larry
Same here, Nosler Partitions are old school just like a nice S&W revolver. Both still get the job done all day long and twice on Sunday.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
.270 loads with Barnes TSX 140 grain bullets elpac3 Reloading 10 03-18-2017 10:21 PM
Range Repot – PC vs. Blue Lube Test PjEagle Reloading 6 03-11-2017 08:34 PM
Best Powder Selection for Win 270 110gr Barnes TTSX 15Krounds Reloading 4 11-27-2015 03:36 PM
Anyone tried Barnes Tac-XPD 140 Grain .40 in a Shield? rowdy115 Ammo 4 10-21-2015 07:30 PM
29-3 Silhouette range repot Falo308 S&W Revolvers: 1980 to the Present 4 03-15-2012 12:45 AM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:16 AM.


Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)