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Old 04-29-2017, 07:04 PM
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I bought a bunch of stuff from an estate sale this afternoon. I got
a bunch of jacketed pistol bullets. Judging from boxes at least 30
yrs old. I got 6 1/2 boxes of Hornady 185g 1/2 Jacket .452" bullets. They are close to WCs. Has anyone shot this bullet? I
would like to load them up at approx. 800fps for target loads in
M25-2/-5s, but I remember there was a issue several years ago
with 1/2 jackets & core separation when using light loads.
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Many years ago I had some 146 and 160gr 357 cal. Speer 1/2 jackets.

I do know if you try to dismantle the bullet........
the lead flys out of the case but the copper jacket is still left crimped in the case.
Once you load this type of bullet, shoot it.

Why would you load slow loads with a SD or hunting bullet?
Good loading.
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Many years ago I had some 146 and 160gr 357 cal. Speer 1/2 jackets.

I do know if you try to dismantle the bullet........
the lead flys out of the case but the copper jacket is still left crimped in the case.
Once you load this type of bullet, shoot it.

Why would you load slow loads with a SD or hunting bullet?
Good loading.
If you look at this bullet it is usless for anything but target. The
diameter of this bullet comes close to its OAL. I figure it was
designed for 1911s. Having no cannulure I was going to load
it flush and crimp over to edge like a WC. I don't know if this
is a SD bullet but it no hunting bullet. 700-800 fps is good for
target, if I didn't have so many of them cheap- I wouldn't fool
with them. Hornady has a 185 JHP & JSP, this is not these bullets.
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I think Hornady marketed those bullets no later than the mid-'60s. They came in .38 cal. also, and probably .44 as well. I have a Hornady manual from about '67, but it has no handgun data, so these bullets are not listed, if they were even available then.

Hornady had a 300 grain half-jacket, or short-jacket that they marketed for .45-70 use but I think it came later than the half-jacketed pistol bullets.

Don't consider this truly accurate information; perhaps someone on this forum will have something more credible.
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I think Hornady marketed those bullets no later than the mid-'60s. They came in .38 cal. also, and probably .44 as well. I have a Hornady manual from about '67, but it has no handgun data, so these bullets are not listed, if they were even available then.

Hornady had a 300 grain half-jacket, or short-jacket that they marketed for .45-70 use but I think it came later than the half-jacketed pistol bullets.

Don't consider this truly accurate information; perhaps someone on this forum will have something more credible.
I think you are probably right. I have 3 Hornady manuals and
it is not listed, one manual doesn't have hand gun loads. I have
several Speer, Sierra, Lyman and none of them list this bullet.
The boxes don't have a stock/ bullet number on them. They do
have data on two other 185g bullets, a JHP and a FMJ? listed as
a target bullet. Both these have cannulure in pics.
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Load 'em. Shoot 'em.
I would actually crimp into the exposed lead if you can to prevent the core from separating under recoil.
This is a great advantage of the revolver: versatility of the loads you can shoot.
Disclaimer:
I have never used those exact bullets although I have shot half jacket 44's.
Currently reading "Gun Notes Vol. 1" by Elmer Keith which is a collection of his columns from the early 60's forward.
More than once he mentions how badly (he thinks) half jacketed bullet suck.
Don't expect world class accuracy.
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