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What powder do you use for your Henry 357 mag?
I have shot Trail Boss, titegroup, H110, and IMR4227. For higher velocity and longer range I like H110 best but switched to 4227 cause H110 clogged up my powder measure. 90% of my bullets are either 125 or 158 grain RNFP powder coated lead. No problems with 1700 fps and 158 grains.
So, what powder would you use and why?
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04-15-2017, 04:03 PM
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What powder do you use for your Henry 357 mag?
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I use 16 grs. of WW 296 with a 158 gr JFP bullet. It seems .357 rifles like the higher end ammo and both my former Winchester Trapper and my new Henry show this to be true!
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04-15-2017, 04:13 PM
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Mine likes 2400 with a Dardas 180 cast bullet.
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04-15-2017, 04:14 PM
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Best results Ive achieved have been with H110/W296 and IMR 4227.
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04-15-2017, 04:16 PM
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I've been using TG, 700x and Universal. All with 158gr FP bullets (coated, jacketed and plated) For coated and plated I'm staying on the low end of the load. No lead 125's since they leave too much leading in the barrel.
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04-15-2017, 07:44 PM
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H110/W296 is a favorite one over here but it gets me mad jamming up the works of my Square Deal powder measure every 300 to 400 rds or so.
For the .357,while I find that IMR 4227 is a little on the slow side for such a small case capacity(altough accuracy is superb),I tend to lean towards 2400.
Have fun and play it safe!
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04-15-2017, 09:34 PM
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Mine likes 2400 with a Dardas 180 cast bullet.
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I got a 100 sample pack of 180 grain from MBC. I loaded them at about 1350 fps. I used H110 for those. At 100 yards they did not group as well as did the 158 grain. But, accuracy was plenty good for a hog at 100 yards.
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04-15-2017, 09:42 PM
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I've been using TG, 700x and Universal. All with 158gr FP bullets (coated, jacketed and plated) For coated and plated I'm staying on the low end of the load. No lead 125's since they leave too much leading in the barrel.
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I cast and powder cost my own BH is around 18. For my Henry, I load them to the specs for FMJ. No problems and no leading. And no flattened primers or bulging cases.
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04-15-2017, 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Qc Pistolero
H110/W296 is a favorite one over here but it gets me mad jamming up the works of my Square Deal powder measure every 300 to 400 rds or so.
For the .357,while I find that IMR 4227 is a little on the slow side for such a small case capacity(altough accuracy is superb),I tend to lean towards 2400.
Have fun and play it safe!
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How does the density of 2400 compare to 4227? 16.2 grains of 4227 fills up the case when using 158 grain. Both H110 and 4227 are pretty clean burning powders.
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04-16-2017, 02:38 AM
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How does the density of 2400 compare to 4227? 16.2 grains of 4227 fills up the case when using 158 grain. Both H110 and 4227 are pretty clean burning powders.
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I looked it up. 2400 is about 20% more dense than 4227.
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While I won't use Lil'Gun in handgun ammo I do like it for ammo shot from a Levergun. High velocity, accuracy and its clean. Just don't shoot too many because of the high heat generated. My second choice is W296.
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04-16-2017, 09:26 AM
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I looked it up. 2400 is about 20% more dense than 4227.
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I could be reading his post wrong, but I think he is primarily concerned with burn rate not case fill. Most of us that have messed with 4227 found it is difficult to get enough of it in a 357 case to get complete burn. That being said, it still produces strong accuracey.
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04-16-2017, 06:07 PM
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With IMR 4227 you DEFINITELY want to use magnum primers . When using a caliber that requires a large pistol primer I use a " FULL " Magnum primer , not the winchester -- kind of sort of a mag primer . I use a lot of winchester primers but not the large pistol when loading with 4227 .
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04-16-2017, 06:25 PM
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I only shoot jacketed bullets in my Rossi. 2400 powder outperforms all others as far as accuracy goes.
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04-16-2017, 09:15 PM
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I've tested H110/Win 296, 2400, and Accurate Arms #9 powder with 158 jacketed bullets and my favorite is AA#9. Using AA data available on-line. Shoots great in my revolvers and Marlin lever action. Burns clean, top velocity, meters great, and the best accuracy for me.
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357 Mag and 2400 powder have been a great match since the 1930's and still is today. Many it seems don't know this and try to re-invent the wheel.
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04-17-2017, 08:23 PM
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357 Mag and 2400 powder have been a great match since the 1930's and still is today. Many it seems don't know this and try to re-invent the wheel.
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Re-invent the wheel? No. It has more to do with using what's available. I picked up a few pounds of 2400 two weeks ago. It's the first time EVER Ive seen it available on a shelf around me. I'll let you know how it stacks up to my 4227, H110, and AA#9. It's going to be tough to out group 4227 and 110...
What kind of results have you seen with with the other powders?
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04-20-2017, 09:30 PM
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For many years my .38+P load was 10.5 gn H4227 under a 150-158 gn LSWC set off with a small rifle primer Accuracy and consistency was very good although burning was not complete. When H4227 was discontinued I changed to Mulwex AR2205, the replacement powder.
A few years ago I changed to 4.2 gn Tightgroup, a standard pressure load, for lower recoil and economy (1650 reloads per pound instead of 680).
When I got my Henry Big Boy .357 (for CAS shooting) I tried both the Tightgroup and 2205 loads under a 100 gn LFP CAS projectile in both .38 Special and .357 cases, loaded to a 158 gn .357 OAL. Best accuracy came with the AR2205 in .357 cases.
For hunting the same load, or a starting load of 14 gn, under a 158 gn projectile should do well.
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For many years my .38+P load was 10.5 gn H4227 under a 150-158 gn LSWC set off with a small rifle primer Accuracy and consistency was very good although burning was not complete. When H4227 was discontinued I changed to Mulwex AR2205, the replacement powder.
A few years ago I changed to 4.2 gn Tightgroup, a standard pressure load, for lower recoil and economy (1650 reloads per pound instead of 680).
When I got my Henry Big Boy .357 (for CAS shooting) I tried both the Tightgroup and 2205 loads under a 100 gn LFP CAS projectile in both .38 Special and .357 cases, loaded to a 158 gn .357 OAL. Best accuracy came with the AR2205 in .357 cases.
For hunting the same load, or a starting load of 14 gn, under a 158 gn projectile should do well.
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Off the subject, but do you have a 38 Spl pistol? I don't. I loaded them for a while for my 686 L-Frame but quit as I have plenty of 357 brass. I cannot think of a reason in my case for loading 38 Spl. If I want light loads I just use 125 grn coated lead and 3.5 grains of Trail Boss. I pour and coat my on bullets too. Mike
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04-27-2017, 07:17 AM
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I have 9.4 HS-6, 158 MO LSWC BHN 18 for my Cimarron Lightning. I had tried my 10.0 load and it was too much of a shoulder bruiser. Ran right out and bought a butt pad but try to avoid using it to spoil the look of that vintage design.
I haven't yet dealt with the velocity restrictions for cowboy matches. Will be a visitor at my first one this Sunday, according to plan.
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Off the subject, but do you have a 38 Spl pistol? I don't. I loaded them for a while for my 686 L-Frame but quit as I have plenty of 357 brass. I cannot think of a reason in my case for loading 38 Spl. If I want light loads I just use 125 grn coated lead and 3.5 grains of Trail Boss. I pour and coat my on bullets too. Mike
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I have a 686 with the four position front sight. I do have some .357 mag brass but do almost all of my shooting with .38 special cases. (I should mention that in this country pistols can only be used for recreational target shooting).
I used to load my target rounds to +P levels to simulate my duty load before we changed to the Glock 9mm and just kept on doing so. It was only due to economics that I switched to "target" level loads.
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