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Old 04-18-2017, 10:21 PM
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Recived from a friend (who's father pased-away) an old mold made by RCBS , it is actually a dubel-mold (it has 2 casting pits) and the manufacturer mark is 45-201-kt . It looks like .45 cal but i will apriciate an answer based on knowledge better than my gess .
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Old 04-18-2017, 10:35 PM
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It's a 200 grain SWC Keith style. Very similar to the popular H&G #68. Great target bullet.
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201gr for the 45acp. The 'kt' was marketing, meaning an (Elmer) Keith Type bullet. Seems like anything that was a SWC was instantly a 'Keith Type' bullet and made it special somehow.
Hensley and Gibbs made a mould to cast a bullet very close to that one,,or rather the RCBS was made to cast a bullet very close to the H&G.
I think the H&G was their #68.

,,,,Mike's got it covered,,I type awful slow

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If you're buddy isn't in to casting, I'd be interested in buying it. PM if interested. RCBS still makes it.
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Thank's for the fast replay !! Will it usefull for my 1911 springfild in 0.45 acp ? Will feeding a new round from the mag. go smooth ??
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Old 04-19-2017, 12:13 AM
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It should feed fine in any 1911. The Lyman 452460 is another ballistic twin and it has run well in mine.
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Sorry mike
No deal on it
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The "KT" molds are no longer made. The mold rcbs sells now is a different animal.

The kt molds have a larger bottom drive band/bullet base and a shorter/smaller top drive band.


The new rcbs 201gr molds have an equal bottom and top drive band.
RCBS 2-Cavity Bullet Mold 45-201-SWC 45 Cal (452 Diameter) 201 Grain

Which is interesting because Keith went to h&g because he didn't like that lyman changed swc designs that had equal drive bands.

The h&g #68 and it's clones was designed to mirror the shape of the ball ammo/bullet of the 45acp. The end result is a bullets that feeds extremely well. Most reloaders use 1.250" for a oal for any of the h&g #68 bullets/clones.
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I like the term "Dubel Casting Pits" better than double cavities ....just sounds cool.
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I got one and yes,it feeds as well as the round nose plus you get as a bonus a very accurate projectile that can be loaded lightly in a target load or quite heavy in a combat load.I cast them relatively soft;they come out at 215gr.The grease groove is large enough so as to hold enough lube even for high velocity load(high for .45ACP;a magnum it ain't!).
And the shape lends itself well to cast easily.
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Elmer Keith designed several bullet molds incorporating his ideas on the right way to do things. I recall reading his writings criticizing mold makers for changing his original design but still calling them Keith type. All I can say is the few molds I have using his designs work as well as he claimed.
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,,,,Mike's got it covered,,I type awful slow

Hay;
you are a lot faster typing than me...........!!

At least the "Gang" got er covered !!

More powder...............
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,,,,Mike's got it covered,,I type awful slow

Hay;
you are a lot faster typing than me...........!!

At least the "Gang" got er covered !!

More powder...............
Still lookin' for another hint as to the identification of "Tank", Ed...?
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Thank's for the fast replay !! Will it usefull for my 1911 springfild in 0.45 acp ? Will feeding a new round from the mag. go smooth ??
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There is only one way to tell if this bullet will work in your gun, and that cast and load some and try them. Seat them so the bullet shoulder is right at the case mouth and taper crimp. If you need loads tell me what powders you have and I will to help.

It is unfortunate that RCBS chose to call this a KT bullet, it has none of the features common to bullets truly designed by Elmer Keith except for being a semi-wadcutter.

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Thanks a lot AL !
For the complet answer !!!
I steel have w-w 630 powder i know it is old but it was kept in unopen original botles and i intent to start in -10% any known load to be on the safe side,
As allways i appreciate your educated replay
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Hi Al !
I think i deleted by mistake an answer you sent me
if yes please resend
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Don't know if you know anything about casting but you'll need a few things to do it. Other than the obvious-lead and a pot to melt it, you can get away with a simple lead dipper to pour the lead into the cavities once you get the mold up to temperature. Then you'll need to size them, but if you're really lucky they may not need that (if they are much over 0.453 then you may have feeding problems because they may be too wide once seated in the brass). And then you'll need to lube them. It's not hard to do but it does take a bit of learning and some equipment.
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Thank's Johnrh ! I have modest experience in casting so any coment progres me !
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