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Old 04-24-2017, 09:18 AM
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Yesterday, I was at a flea market. Bought a couple boxes of bullets. The .38's are 158gr. SWC. They are copper plated according to the printed box label. (no brand on it) Normally plated bullets that I've seen have a hard shiny finish. Plated do not normally have lube. Dimensions & weight are correct. (checked them) Anyway, 411, for $10, couldn't turn them down. Will be for plinking. Anybody seen any like this before??? Bob
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Old 04-24-2017, 09:24 AM
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Don't know anything about them, but I am reminded of Winchester Lubaloy bullets, which were similar in appearance, at least the part that showed outside the loaded cartridge case.
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National Bullet Co. They can stand 1100 fps.

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They are copper washed lead bullets. I have not seen them for a long time.
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They are copper washed lead bullets. I have not seen them for a long time.
And the plating isn't nearly as thick as the hard shiny plated bullets.
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And the plating isn't nearly as thick as the hard shiny plated bullets.
I know. That is why I posted. A new 1 on me. Just going to use lead data. It was mentioned that it was a "copper wash" by another member. Not what I am used to. Bob
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Home made? I've seen this done with a car battery and some sort of kitchen chemical. I don't recall what. Not sure why they'd need lube.
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National Bullet Co. They can stand 1100 fps.
Looks like they went out business in 2008 for failing to fill orders for over a year while continuing to accept payments.
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Home made? I've seen this done with a car battery and some sort of kitchen chemical. I don't recall what. Not sure why they'd need lube.
The box had a machine printed label. They were manufactured. No name on the label though of the manufacturer. Bob
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Looks like they went out business in 2008 for failing to fill orders for over a year while continuing to accept payments.
After National Bullet Co. was mentioned, I researched it somewhat. They did not close on good terms from what I gather as you say. Bob
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2-1/2 cents apiece? I'd take them at that price for sure. That's about half the cost of the cheapest cast lead. The copper wash is just a minor bonus - might help prevent leading.
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I went to the sellers house (from flea market) on Monday. He had bought a BUNCH of loading stuff at auction for $450. He told me he had gotten about $900 back so far. I bought Hoppes, 1400 bullets, (projectiles) 2 bricks of primers, & NEW 500 ct nickel 45acp brass for $75 total. At today's retails, close to $400. He seemed happy, I WAS happy. Bob
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Nice! I love a new/oddball bullet find. Gives me an excuse to develop a load for them!
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To me they look like copper colored powder coating. Either plated or powder coated, they should not have any lube on them. Somebody doesn't know what they are doing. I wouldn't have bought them...
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I loaded 200 rounds of the "GOLDEN BULLETS" (copper, I know) Did the math on handloads.com cost calculator. With what I paid for components, worked out to $3.36, for a box of 50. A lot of plinking bang for the buck! Bob
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I loaded 200 rounds of the "GOLDEN BULLETS" (copper, I know) Did the math on handloads.com cost calculator. With what I paid for components, worked out to $3.36, for a box of 50. A lot of plinking bang for the buck! Bob
There you go! What's not to like about that?
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I have seen copper "washed" 44 bullets a couple of decades ago.
Got them at a swap meet - gun show at a club.
They were very nicely made 265 grain SWC-GC with a greasy lube.
They way they were packaged, although very well, made me suspect a small (think garage) operation.
They looked a whole lot like yours except bigger and with the flat, gas checked, base.
I suspect folks figured out the copper wash was way more trouble than it was worth (basically nothing).
They were shot up a long time ago.
Accuracy was good but I didn't have enough of them to get excited or document anything.
Probably used my standby load of 18 grains 2400 with 265 cast 44's.
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