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Old 05-14-2017, 09:26 AM
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Just a suggestion, when you're trying a new (untested to you) load don't load so many to start. If it's wrong for your gun you're stuck with having to break them down.

If you trying to work-up an accuracy load only load about ten of your starting load & work-up in .2gr to .4gr increments (depending on powder/charge weight) to your intended max. charge. If your max. is also the max. charge listed I only load five of them the first time.

It's a little extra work but it's better than having unsatisfactory ammo to deal with.

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This is good advice. I typically do lots of 100. I don't mind that they are light loads. Luckily I was shooting the Ruger. I just know not to use them in the Model 19 now.

I am still pretty new to this, but 100 rounds of .357 cost me about $9. So i don't mind having them. It wasn't unpleasant to shoot, just wasn't what i expected. I suspect if/when i ever get into developing more intricate/powerful/purposeful rounds, i will do smaller batches as i develop it. At this point, its more like its sub 1/3 the cost to go throw some lead down the range.

Good tip though. I appreciate it!
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Old 05-14-2017, 01:14 PM
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This is good advice. I typically do lots of 100. I don't mind that they are light loads. Luckily I was shooting the Ruger. I just know not to use them in the Model 19 now.

I am still pretty new to this, but 100 rounds of .357 cost me about $9. So i don't mind having them. It wasn't unpleasant to shoot, just wasn't what i expected. I suspect if/when i ever get into developing more intricate/powerful/purposeful rounds, i will do smaller batches as i develop it. At this point, its more like its sub 1/3 the cost to go throw some lead down the range.

Good tip though. I appreciate it!
You will take the suggestion to load only a few more seriously when you get a load that is not only unsatisfactory but which cartridges are not usable at all.
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I started with Unique, but since it meters like corn flakes, I quickly moved over to w231/hp38. Now I am using BE-86 for all my handgun loads. Meters great, and I get good results with it.
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Unique meters great for me...no complaints.

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Just a suggestion, when you're trying a new (untested to you) load don't load so many to start.
Amen!

I was given 32 147gr 0.355 bullets that I wanted to try out. Most of my 9mm rounds are 115gr bullets, so this was somewhat new to me and so I started at the concensus starting load from several reloading manuals. The first two rounds were all I needed to fire to know that the load was too hot, so I had to bring the remaining 30 home and buy a 9mm collet for my bullet puller. I'll try again this summer.
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I used Unique for nearly 40 years - great powder and I respect it as "Apple Pie." I've replaced it with Power Pistol in 38 Spl high velocity loadings and mid range 357 Magnums. Power Pistol measures great...gives me good velocities with lead and cast bullets and burns cleanly.

2400 is my powder for 357 magnum velocities. If I had a 38 Spl revolver, I would use HP38/231 or Bullseye with 158 gr lead or cast bullets at standard velocity loadings.

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BE-86 and Universal, for sure. I haven't tried AA5 yet. Power Pistol for .38 +P and higher pressure loads (read semi-auto cartridges).

I've had better results with BE-86 than Universal in my 9mm. The two are equal in the .38.
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I must be jaded or something because after reading the OP I thought I knew how this thread would unfold and that's basically what happened although I got a few small points wrong.


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Wow, there are sure a lot of good pistol powders out there! I like American Select for my 12 ga. target loads. I'm also using it for 9mm, .357 Mag. and .45 ACP loads. I have seen where others are using it for .44 Mag and .38 SPL. It burns cleanly. It won't get you your best velocities, but it will get you in the ballpark, somewhat like Unique. I'm an Alliant kind of guy (formerly Hercules). That being said there are other great brands of powders.
Mike, there have been scant few sightings of American Select since the beginning of the great powder shortage. I saw some last fall but like a vapor on the horizon it was gone. I like American Select for handgun loads but I have moved on due to availability issues. This is what I think is the good aspect of the shortage, it forced us to look at things that we might never consider using.
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For 38spl and 45acp is use WST . Not many people seem to use it as it was more available through the great powder shortage . It gives me respectable velocity for what I call " standard loads " and burns clean . I stumbled onto it when Bullseye and Red Dot was not available , month after month . I haven't looked back . I agree on American Select as it was another one that just disappeared for about 7 yrs , hence I looked elsewhere .
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...... I stumbled onto it when Bullseye and Red Dot was not available , month after month . I haven't looked back . I agree on American Select as it was another one that just disappeared for about 7 yrs , hence I looked elsewhere .
How long has it been since you have turned around to see what is behind you? Seems odd. You never know when a long cool woman in a black dress is in your rear view mirror.
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I've used Unique for many years as my all everything revolver powder. For the last two years I have replaced Unique with BE-86 and WSF. They both meter well, clean burning, and close in burn rate (marginally slower). Maybe even an little better in performance too. Just makes it easier when one powder can be used over so many pistol/revolver calibers.
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