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Bayou bullets - long live "Lubaloy!"
I've just started shooting 158 gr SWC Bayou gold plated 38 Spl +P loads over 5.6 grs Power Pistol. No leading and darn accurate. Now I have to get them over a chronograph.
The gold color of the coating is reminiscent of Winchester/Western "Lubaloy" bullets - my load is intended to duplicate the old WW 158 gr "Lubaloy" SWC +P round. They were a favorite of mine in the 1970s with more punch than the standard 158 gr RNL loads.
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I've just started shooting 158 gr SWC Bayou gold plated 38 Spl +P loads over 5.6 grs Power Pistol. No leading and darn accurate. Now I have to get them over a chronograph.
The gold color of the coating is reminiscent of Winchester/Western "Lubaloy" bullets - my load is intended to duplicate the old WW 158 gr "Lubaloy" SWC +P round. They were a favorite of mine in the 1970s with more punch than the standard 158 gr RNL loads.
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Was not aware they sold "Plated" bullets??
The sell High TeK COATED bullets
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Yeah, they make a nice bullet. I use them in .357 & .44. They hold together well even when departing a 20" 1892 @ almost 2k fps.
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i just recently decided to try coated cast bullets. Been using conventional lubed cast bullets for years. I decided to go with Bayou Bullets. I caalled them last Wednesday and the bullets were at my door yesterday, my second order. I've used 45 acp 200 gr swc and 158 gr 357 swc and am pretty sold on these bullets. The gun shoots cleaner, a lot of the smoke from my loads went away, and i don't handle raw lead loading em.
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I've just started shooting 158 gr SWC Bayou gold plated 38 Spl +P loads over 5.6 grs Power Pistol. No leading and darn accurate. Now I have to get them over a chronograph.
The gold color of the coating is reminiscent of Winchester/Western "Lubaloy" bullets - my load is intended to duplicate the old WW 158 gr "Lubaloy" SWC +P round. They were a favorite of mine in the 1970s with more punch than the standard 158 gr RNL loads.
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If i remember right, you could scratch the lubaloy off, the HT is pretty durable. Seems good to 1500fps or so.
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I've shot some of the Bayou 158 grain SWC coated bullets out of my Rossi 92SRC with no leading problems and have chrono'ed some MBC 140 grain Zinger Hi Tek coated bullets at over 1900 fps with no leading problems. Applied properly, the Hi Tek coating seems to work really well on cutting out or minimizing leading problems with cast bullets.
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If i remember right, you could scratch the lubaloy off.the HT is pretty durable. Seems good to 1500fps or so.
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What was Lubaloy? I havent handled any since I was kid. I always thought it just copper flashing like the .22rf bullets. Was there a thin coat of wax over too?
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What was Lubaloy? I havent handled any since I was kid. I always thought it just copper flashing like the .22rf bullets. Was there a thin coat of wax over too?
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Me too, 22lr stuff.
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Sorry, they are gold Hi Tek polymer coated...super bullets.
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They remind me of Lubaloy bullets with their color, they are coated bullets.
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I have a lot of gold bullets.....
I like Bayou's bullets. And Missouri's. And Penn's
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Sorry, they are gold Hi Tek polymer coated...super bullets.
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Again, not really a poly, but a resin/epoxy.
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Ok, a composite coated bullet
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I've just started shooting 158 gr SWC Bayou gold plated 38 Spl +P loads over 5.6 grs Power Pistol. No leading and darn accurate. Now I have to get them over a chronograph.
The gold color of the coating is reminiscent of Winchester/Western "Lubaloy" bullets - my load is intended to duplicate the old WW 158 gr "Lubaloy" SWC +P round. They were a favorite of mine in the 1970s with more punch than the standard 158 gr RNL loads.
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I have a box of those WW lubaly.
Thanks for the report.
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I use Bayou's 185 grain swc for my 1911 bulleye pistol and they work really well. Nice product.
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What is the Hi-Tek coating and how is it applied?
The coating is made in Australia and imported here. We are currently lined to up distribute this coating along with unsized/unlubed bullets so that folks can apply the coating themselves. The coating itself consists of a catalyst which binds a polymeric colorant agent with acetone which is then applied in bulk to raw bullets and baked onto the bullets' surface at nearly 400 degrees. The coating is a polymer (bonded with metal) and forms an extremely tough new surface for the bullet. The application of the coating is repeated for an additional coat. The bullets are then sized normally but not lubricated, as the coating itself acts as bullet lube. Nominal bullet diameter is not affected.
What are the advantages of Hi-Tek coated bullets?
Many indoor ranges prohibit the use of lead bullets but allow the use of coated bullets due to the fact that no lead is exposed to the environment.
Leading of the bore is dramatically reduced, as is lube smoke. Long shooting sessions do not have to be interrupted by bore cleaning.
Higher velocities can be attained with coated bullets.
Health benefits for the reloader, as there is no touching of bare lead.
Reduced force required to seat and crimp because the bullets are slippery.
2-Extreme Hi-Tek catalyst – We use this newest catalyst from the manufacturer because it has superb lubricity. It is well worth the extra cost relative to the standard catalyst. The bullets actually look "wet" and are very slippery. This lubricity reduces friction-related heat as the bullet traverses the bore.
In summary, Hi-Tek coated bullets offer the advantages associated with plated bullets without the expense.
Lubaloy
Non-jacketed Bullets- The most common material used in the manufacture of non-jacketed bullets is lead. Lead bullets are usually an alloy of lead and antimony which is added to give the bullet some additional hardness. Variations are the norm when it comes to the materials used in bullets and it's not uncommon to find lead bullets with a thin coating of copper or brass plating. Bullets having this thin coating is sometimes referred to as a copper-washed or "Lubaloy" bullet. This thin coating can be easily scratched away from the surface of the lead causing problems for firearm examiners when these bullets are damaged. Another example of a coated bullet is the Federal "Nyclad" bullet that is designed to reduce lead emissions.
In 1922, the Western Cartridge Company introduced a copper-washed bullet jacketing called Lubaloy which stands for lubricating alloy. Lubaloy replaced standard bullet jacketing which had been cupro-nickel coated steel or solid cupro-nickel. The original jacketing was found to be detrimental to firearm performance over time. Lumps of the hot jacketing were deposited near the end of the barrel during firing, eventually creating a hazard or destroying the barrel. The Lubaloy-Palma ammunition jacketing was a breakthrough solution to this persistent dilemma. It was composed of 90% copper, 8% zinc, and 2% tin.
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I use the Bayou Bullets in 9mm, 38/357 and .45 acp. I have found that they work well in the 158 RN or SWC design. Same for the 200 grain .45s. I had to load down on my 9mms or have leading. Did I damage some of the coating while loading, I don't know. Never had success with lead bullets in 9mm. Just my experience, I highly recommend the 38/357 and .45 bullets.
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