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Old 07-09-2017, 11:03 PM
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Love the 30-30, provided some great venison.

Although I hunted with factory loadings (Remington 170 gr Core Lokt SP) I loaded both the Rem 170 gr Core Lokt and Hornady 170 gr FP with IMR 3031 (29 grs, old IMR data). IMR 3031 and 30-30 are a match made in heaven! H4895 (33.5 grs) good also with 150 gr bullets (Hornady RN).
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Old 07-10-2017, 12:05 AM
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My 30-30 Handi rifle is my plinker and pest gun with a 110 grain JSP over 21 grains of H4198. 30 carbine ballistics with high accuracy.
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Old 07-10-2017, 01:14 AM
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Hodgdon Leverevolution, meters well, safely adds 100 FPS to the 30-30. I've found it very accurate.
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Old 07-10-2017, 02:09 AM
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I have only been loading .30-30 for about 40 years or so, so please disregard my ignorance.

Lee C309-170F cast of 50% wheel weights and 50% new linotype metal (BHN about 18), sized .309" on NRA formula Alox lube, Hornady crimp-on gas check, loaded in full-length sized cases with 30 grains H335, standard large rifle primer. Usually about 2100FPS from a 20" carbine barrel.

Absolutely deadly on deer to 150 yards or so (about as far as the .30-30 can reasonably be used). Dozens of deer taken in multiple states with this load over the years. Pretty much duplicates the factory 170-grain load.

The grandkids haven't figured out that .30-30 ammo can be purchased in stores. They just send their fired brass back to Grampa's house, and I make a big production run every year to keep them all supplied.
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Old 07-10-2017, 06:34 AM
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Dad has a nice 1952 '94 in 30-30, But that is his baby and won't share.

My only 30-30 is the top barrel of a Savage 24. I usually load my Flat Point Gas Checked 117 grain bullet at about 1200 fps for small game! I just use the .314's I size up for the 32-20 revolver.

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Old 07-10-2017, 09:04 AM
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My favorite 30-30 load is the Lyman 311041 , 173 gr FP Gc'd cast bullet sitting on top of 25 grs of IMR 3031 sized .311 in my Marlin 336 or sized .309 in my Winchester 94 Centennial model ( octagon barrel , brass coated frame ) for about 1750- 1800fps . For my sister I drop it down to 23 grs in her Marlin 336 , still just as accurate and a little less recoil .

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Old 07-10-2017, 09:07 AM
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I also load lead in the 30-30 but I'm still using the old(1937) can of Hi Vel #2 for Jacketed bullets in both the 30-30 and my 32 Special... Both early 50's Winchester 64's. For lead bullets I use 11.5 grains Unique. Both 170 gr flat nosed gas check bullets 311 041 in the 30-30 same bullet in 32(don't remember the mold number). The 32 is a lot of fun to shoot just cause it's different
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Old 07-11-2017, 09:28 PM
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The 30-30 can really be helped out by reloading to get the most out of it.
New bullets and powders for the old rifle can up the performance, big time.

Being a .30 caliber, it does not need much to put venison on the table.........
just a good eye and steady nerves.

Plus the case is a lot smaller than my .375 Winchester
and a lot cheaper to load !!
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Been loading 100 GR Speer plinkers with 12 Gr of Unique - these chrono at about 1700 FPS at the muzzle and are deadly accurate out of my 1899 Mod 94 Sporting Rifle.
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Old 07-12-2017, 06:36 PM
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The grandkids haven't figured out that .30-30 ammo can be purchased in stores. They just send their fired brass back to Grampa's house, and I make a big production run every year to keep them all supplied.
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Old 07-13-2017, 04:33 PM
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Gifted my late father in law a 94 Carbine and loaded alot of cast and jacketed slugs for it. Remington and Speer 150 flat points and also Hornady 170 flat points are solid game getters with this old scabbard gun. Seen big Mule bucks drop at close range with little more than starting loads of IMR 3031. WIN 748 is also a good one to use if top velocities are warranted. Both IMR and H-4895 are accurate in the old 30WCF. I have a Canadian Pacific Mountain Rangers 94 Carbine that the Militia on the Coast was issued in WW11. Sweet shooter even though it shows wear and tear and the Salt air corrosion from being on the boat for decades. Good luck in your load development.
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Old 07-13-2017, 04:44 PM
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My only foray into using cast bullets in the .30-30 did not work out too well. I bought a box of 500 170 grain lead bullets from Missouri Bullet Co., and tried out about every powder and loading from the Lyman Cast Bullet Handbook. I never could get anything approaching a respectable group from my Model 94 (with receiver peep sight). Typically > 6" at 100 yards. Including some much worse groups.
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Old 07-13-2017, 09:29 PM
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My only foray into using cast bullets in the .30-30 did not work out too well. I bought a box of 500 170 grain lead bullets from Missouri Bullet Co., and tried out about every powder and loading from the Lyman Cast Bullet Handbook. I never could get anything approaching a respectable group from my Model 94 (with receiver peep sight). Typically > 6" at 100 yards. Including some much worse groups.
Are you able to shoot better groups with jacketed bullets?
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Old 07-13-2017, 11:26 PM
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While I have a few 30-30's, the only one that I have reloaded for is my TC Contender. Deadly on Michigan Whitetails and rams at 200 meters. My rifles have always used factory ammo for hunting but even that has been a while. Might be something to play with though.
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Old 07-14-2017, 12:47 AM
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I've loaded for a bunch of 30-30s.. Have an old Winchester 54 bolt gun and a Rem 788 30-30s. reworked 225 Win brass to load 50,000 PSI 30 30 rounds. Actually got about 300 Sav vels. Another waste of time but it was fun doing it... and used pointy bullets
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Old 07-14-2017, 01:42 AM
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I have a couple winchester 94's in 30-30.My favorite ammo for them is the winchester power point 170 grain loading. I recently got a 1894 Canadian Centennial rifle with the 26" lomg barrel. Globe front target type site for up forward and either steel Lyman 57 back aft. Pristine bore on this one so this rifle most likely will get the treatment with castbullets. Md model 27 Finnish reworked Moisin Nagant I've been shooting castbullets through and it is a joy to shoot. Same standard receipe I've been using these last 20 odd years.
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Lyman 314299 sized to .314 and gas checked and lubed with Javelina lube. Powder charge is 20.0 grains IMR 4759 and estimated velocity is between 1600 to 1800 feet per second. Winchester Large Primer to set it all off. made up a mini neck sizing die so it will only size about .003. So far no case trimming needed.Frank
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Old 07-14-2017, 09:21 AM
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When I still had a 30-30, a MArlin 93, I loaded most all with 3031. I did make some light cast bullet loads up with bullseye and I think red-dot. The rifle is long gone down the road.
I do load 30Remington for Model 8 semi auto. The charge weights are just about identicle between the 30-30 and the 30Rem,as they are betw the 32WCF and the 32Rem.
I use both 3031 and more recently H4595 in the 30Rem. Both work nicely with even the starting loads operating the action. Accuracy is what I expect from these old autoloaders the ballistics mirror their WCF counterpart cartridges.
One thing about the 30 and 32 Rem bores is that they are supposed to be about a .000 or 2 under standard groove dia (.306/7 as opposed to .308 and .319/20 as opposed to .321 in the 32Rem. I've never slugged them to verify on my rifles and never had any problems with either factory jacketed or cast.
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I have never shot a jacketed load in 30-30. My 94 likes the RCBS 180 fp and a fp Ranch dog mold in 165 gr. 14" contender likes the RD mold and 311440. A light load is 3118 and 6-8.5 gr. Herco.
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I just started casting and loading for 30-30 in a 1941 M94 20". I am using my cast bullet, Lyman .311041 cast from 50/50 WW and Lino and sized to .309. I am using 3031. I got decent 50 yard accuracy but some oblong holes. I loaded the next batch with bullets sized to .311, we will see how it works.
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Old 07-16-2017, 03:32 PM
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I just started casting and loading for 30-30 in a 1941 M94 20". I am using my cast bullet, Lyman .311041 cast from 50/50 WW and Lino and sized to .309. I am using 3031. I got decent 50 yard accuracy but some oblong holes. I loaded the next batch with bullets sized to .311, we will see how it works.
If you are getting keyholing (really yawing, evidenced by oblong holes in the target), it generally means that the bullets are too long to stabilize properly at the gun's rifling twist, at least at that MV. I doubt increasing the bullet diameter will cure that, but it's worth a try. I have fired 220 grain RNFMJ .308 bullets in my .30-30 and they also tend to keyhole a bit. Even so, they don't group too badly at 50 yards. It would probably produce much worse groups at 100 yards or more, but I have not tried shooting them at longer distances.
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[QUOTE=Ivan the Butcher;139661416]Dad has a nice 1952 '94 in 30-30, But that is his baby and won't share.

My only 30-30 is the top barrel of a Savage 24. I usually load my Flat Point Gas Checked 117 grain bullet at about 1200 fps for small game! I just use the .314's I size up for the 32-20 revolver.

Never under estimate a lead bullet 2 aspirin in the head of a ground-hog!

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What do you mean,nrefedring to the aspirin?
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[QUOTE=smoothshooter;139687996][QUOTE=Ivan the Butcher;139661416]Dad has a nice 1952 '94 in 30-30, But that is his baby and won't share.

My only 30-30 is the top barrel of a Savage 24. I usually load my Flat Point Gas Checked 117 grain bullet at about 1200 fps for small game! I just use the .314's I size up for the 32-20 revolver.

Never under estimate a lead bullet 2 aspirin in the head of a ground-hog!

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What do you mean, ( referring to the aspirin?).
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Anyone ever give the Hornady flex tips a try in the 30-30?

Cast and jacket have always been the standard but these new FT's look promising. I am looking at picking up some FT's in .25 cal for the 25-35 and giving them a try since the old 117 RN seem to be non-existent.
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Only .30-30 on hand at present is this Winchester Model 54 carbine from 1928. Its favorite load is 31.5 grains of IMR 3031 under a Sierra 170 grain flat nose soft point, a load which clocks 2193 fps over the chronograph and is a deer getter.
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Great load bmcgilvray - 3031 and 170 grs are a match made in heaven.

Nice model 54
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Anyone ever give the Hornady flex tips a try in the 30-30?
Yes, I load them regularly. Very accurate and effective on deer. I use LeverEvolution powder for good velocity. Using the load printed directly on the container (as well as on the Hogdgon reloading data website), a muzzle velocity of 2,389 FPS is noted thereon.

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I got the Model 54 Winchester many years ago. The moment it came to roost I began developing a stable of max .30-30 loads using spitzer bullets, figuring perhaps I could achieve low-end .300 Savage velocities.

Nothing doing! The rifle hasn't liked spitzers and gives an unimpressive accuracy performance with them. 125 grain, 150 grain, and 165 grain spitzer bullets of various styles have been tried. Varying the seating depth makes no difference.


The Hornady LeverRevolution bullet didn't give good accuracy either.

The rifle likes flat-nose bullets and that's all there is to it. 1 1/2-inches five-shot groups off the bench rest at 100 yards are doable when I'm in a shooting humor, with one "accidental" 1 1/4-inch 5-shot group saved to date.
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Winchester 748 is a fine powder for the 30-30 as well as the previously mentioned imr3031 and H4895.
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The 30-30 is,IMO one of the 2 calibers that can be loaded to its full potential with cast bullet and IMR3031.The other being the 45-70.
I once had a couple of young shooters looking amusingly at my cast bullets loaded rounds.I luckily had a few 45-70 cast bullets loaded at muy fps with 510gr bullets(I know this is a 30-30 post but I can't help to relate this as some people think that these 2 calibers are ''hasbeen''.)I had one of the shooters try one...after seing his fellow shooter wince at his shoulder,he declined the offer to try it too.As far as I know,them 2 shooters are now extrolling the vertues of cast bullets in ''old time calibers''like the 30-30 and 45-70.
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Great load bmcgilvray - 3031 and 170 grs are a match made in heaven.

Nice model 54
Before I changed over to LVR for loading 30-30 ammo I used IMR-3031. I would charge 31.0gr under a 150gr bullet and 30.0gr under a 170gr bullet. I like a 170gr bullet load best in the 30-30 for where I live.

After all, 3031 was developed for use in the 30-30.
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+1 on the larger 170gr bullet in the little 30-30 as a great game getter load.

Out here in Nevada we stretch the range out a little by makingthe 1st round
a 165 grain bullet by Sierra, that has a light copper jacket.
Not just any 165, it works out best to drop the famous Boat Tail
for long distance shots, to the flat base, that has more bearing surface,
that seem to shoot tighter groups in our test.

We can stretch our shots on deer out to 250 yards, if a standing broad shot.
However if in brushy tight quarters the 170gr is king !!
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My ol model 54 shoots the 130 gr HP very well. I have even shot the 165 gr Hornady plastic tipped STS bullet pretty well in the 54. The Rem 788 will shoot almost any bullet... round flat pointy really well. It is not particularly accurate with my 311 041 cast bullet though. My favorite powder is long discontinued Hi Vel #2. The first round out of the Model 64 with the 130 gr HP is usually a DRT on the average whitetail...out to 150-175 yds or so
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I have only been loading .30-30 for about 40 years or so, so please disregard my ignorance.

Lee C309-170F cast of 50% wheel weights and 50% new linotype metal (BHN about 18), sized .309" on NRA formula Alox lube, Hornady crimp-on gas check, loaded in full-length sized cases with 30 grains H335, standard large rifle primer. Usually about 2100FPS from a 20" carbine barrel.

Absolutely deadly on deer to 150 yards or so (about as far as the .30-30 can reasonably be used). Dozens of deer taken in multiple states with this load over the years. Pretty much duplicates the factory 170-grain load.

The grandkids haven't figured out that .30-30 ammo can be purchased in stores. They just send their fired brass back to Grampa's house, and I make a big production run every year to keep them all supplied.
I use a lot of H335 myself, in 30-30 I use H335 almost exclusively. I shot in a benchrest league years ago and proved to myself that a thrown charge of a ball powder like 335 is every bit as accurate as weighed charges.

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