Smith & Wesson Forum

Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > >


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 07-09-2017, 11:03 PM
38SPL HV 38SPL HV is offline
Member
Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings  
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Right side of the Sierras
Posts: 397
Likes: 2
Liked 101 Times in 70 Posts
Default Favorite 30-30 loadings

Love the 30-30, provided some great venison.

Although I hunted with factory loadings (Remington 170 gr Core Lokt SP) I loaded both the Rem 170 gr Core Lokt and Hornady 170 gr FP with IMR 3031 (29 grs, old IMR data). IMR 3031 and 30-30 are a match made in heaven! H4895 (33.5 grs) good also with 150 gr bullets (Hornady RN).
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #2  
Old 07-10-2017, 12:05 AM
Calliope Calliope is offline
Member
Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings  
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: On the Mississippi.
Posts: 269
Likes: 33
Liked 82 Times in 51 Posts
Default

My 30-30 Handi rifle is my plinker and pest gun with a 110 grain JSP over 21 grains of H4198. 30 carbine ballistics with high accuracy.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 07-10-2017, 01:14 AM
Mike in Reedley Mike in Reedley is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Reedley Ca. U.S.A
Posts: 205
Likes: 7
Liked 215 Times in 94 Posts
Default

Hodgdon Leverevolution, meters well, safely adds 100 FPS to the 30-30. I've found it very accurate.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07-10-2017, 02:09 AM
LoboGunLeather's Avatar
LoboGunLeather LoboGunLeather is offline
US Veteran
Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings  
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Colorado
Posts: 2,750
Likes: 545
Liked 6,771 Times in 1,300 Posts
Default

I have only been loading .30-30 for about 40 years or so, so please disregard my ignorance.

Lee C309-170F cast of 50% wheel weights and 50% new linotype metal (BHN about 18), sized .309" on NRA formula Alox lube, Hornady crimp-on gas check, loaded in full-length sized cases with 30 grains H335, standard large rifle primer. Usually about 2100FPS from a 20" carbine barrel.

Absolutely deadly on deer to 150 yards or so (about as far as the .30-30 can reasonably be used). Dozens of deer taken in multiple states with this load over the years. Pretty much duplicates the factory 170-grain load.

The grandkids haven't figured out that .30-30 ammo can be purchased in stores. They just send their fired brass back to Grampa's house, and I make a big production run every year to keep them all supplied.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 07-10-2017, 06:34 AM
Ivan the Butcher Ivan the Butcher is offline
Member
Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings  
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Harlem, Ohio
Posts: 4,664
Likes: 3,108
Liked 4,283 Times in 1,910 Posts
Default

Dad has a nice 1952 '94 in 30-30, But that is his baby and won't share.

My only 30-30 is the top barrel of a Savage 24. I usually load my Flat Point Gas Checked 117 grain bullet at about 1200 fps for small game! I just use the .314's I size up for the 32-20 revolver.

Never under estimate a lead bullet 2 aspirin in the head of a ground-hog!

Ivan

Ivan
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 07-10-2017, 09:04 AM
cowboy4evr cowboy4evr is offline
Member
Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings  
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: for now ,Texas
Posts: 834
Likes: 28
Liked 675 Times in 361 Posts
Default

My favorite 30-30 load is the Lyman 311041 , 173 gr FP Gc'd cast bullet sitting on top of 25 grs of IMR 3031 sized .311 in my Marlin 336 or sized .309 in my Winchester 94 Centennial model ( octagon barrel , brass coated frame ) for about 1750- 1800fps . For my sister I drop it down to 23 grs in her Marlin 336 , still just as accurate and a little less recoil .

Last edited by cowboy4evr; 07-12-2017 at 09:18 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 07-10-2017, 09:07 AM
Skeet 028 Skeet 028 is offline
Member
Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings  
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Wyoming
Posts: 1,860
Likes: 580
Liked 1,409 Times in 704 Posts
Default

I also load lead in the 30-30 but I'm still using the old(1937) can of Hi Vel #2 for Jacketed bullets in both the 30-30 and my 32 Special... Both early 50's Winchester 64's. For lead bullets I use 11.5 grains Unique. Both 170 gr flat nosed gas check bullets 311 041 in the 30-30 same bullet in 32(don't remember the mold number). The 32 is a lot of fun to shoot just cause it's different
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 07-11-2017, 09:28 PM
Nevada Ed's Avatar
Nevada Ed Nevada Ed is offline
Member
Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings  
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Reno Nv
Posts: 5,939
Likes: 162
Liked 3,147 Times in 1,638 Posts
Default

The 30-30 can really be helped out by reloading to get the most out of it.
New bullets and powders for the old rifle can up the performance, big time.

Being a .30 caliber, it does not need much to put venison on the table.........
just a good eye and steady nerves.

Plus the case is a lot smaller than my .375 Winchester
and a lot cheaper to load !!
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 07-11-2017, 09:45 PM
Mistered Mistered is offline
Member
Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings  
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Wickiup Junction, OR
Posts: 550
Likes: 9
Liked 661 Times in 288 Posts
Default

Been loading 100 GR Speer plinkers with 12 Gr of Unique - these chrono at about 1700 FPS at the muzzle and are deadly accurate out of my 1899 Mod 94 Sporting Rifle.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 07-12-2017, 06:36 PM
TomkinsSP's Avatar
TomkinsSP TomkinsSP is offline
Member
Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings  
Join Date: May 2017
Location: USA
Posts: 123
Likes: 39
Liked 88 Times in 41 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LoboGunLeather View Post

The grandkids haven't figured out that .30-30 ammo can be purchased in stores. They just send their fired brass back to Grampa's house, and I make a big production run every year to keep them all supplied.
Sometimes just a bit of ignorance can be a beautiful thing.
__________________
Its better without the...
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #11  
Old 07-13-2017, 04:33 PM
Service Rifleman1 Service Rifleman1 is offline
Member
Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings  
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 42
Likes: 1
Liked 5 Times in 4 Posts
Default

Gifted my late father in law a 94 Carbine and loaded alot of cast and jacketed slugs for it. Remington and Speer 150 flat points and also Hornady 170 flat points are solid game getters with this old scabbard gun. Seen big Mule bucks drop at close range with little more than starting loads of IMR 3031. WIN 748 is also a good one to use if top velocities are warranted. Both IMR and H-4895 are accurate in the old 30WCF. I have a Canadian Pacific Mountain Rangers 94 Carbine that the Militia on the Coast was issued in WW11. Sweet shooter even though it shows wear and tear and the Salt air corrosion from being on the boat for decades. Good luck in your load development.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 07-13-2017, 04:44 PM
DWalt's Avatar
DWalt DWalt is offline
Member
Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings  
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: South Texas
Posts: 19,146
Likes: 2
Liked 9,901 Times in 5,686 Posts
Default

My only foray into using cast bullets in the .30-30 did not work out too well. I bought a box of 500 170 grain lead bullets from Missouri Bullet Co., and tried out about every powder and loading from the Lyman Cast Bullet Handbook. I never could get anything approaching a respectable group from my Model 94 (with receiver peep sight). Typically > 6" at 100 yards. Including some much worse groups.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 07-13-2017, 09:29 PM
ArchAngelCD's Avatar
ArchAngelCD ArchAngelCD is offline
Member
Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings  
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Northeast PA, USA
Posts: 5,113
Likes: 253
Liked 1,566 Times in 967 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DWalt View Post
My only foray into using cast bullets in the .30-30 did not work out too well. I bought a box of 500 170 grain lead bullets from Missouri Bullet Co., and tried out about every powder and loading from the Lyman Cast Bullet Handbook. I never could get anything approaching a respectable group from my Model 94 (with receiver peep sight). Typically > 6" at 100 yards. Including some much worse groups.
Are you able to shoot better groups with jacketed bullets?
__________________
Freedom is never free!!
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 07-13-2017, 11:26 PM
Bob L Bob L is offline
Member
Favorite 30-30 loadings  
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: SW Ohio
Posts: 632
Likes: 206
Liked 429 Times in 225 Posts
Default

While I have a few 30-30's, the only one that I have reloaded for is my TC Contender. Deadly on Michigan Whitetails and rams at 200 meters. My rifles have always used factory ammo for hunting but even that has been a while. Might be something to play with though.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 07-14-2017, 12:47 AM
Skeet 028 Skeet 028 is offline
Member
Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings  
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Wyoming
Posts: 1,860
Likes: 580
Liked 1,409 Times in 704 Posts
Default

I've loaded for a bunch of 30-30s.. Have an old Winchester 54 bolt gun and a Rem 788 30-30s. reworked 225 Win brass to load 50,000 PSI 30 30 rounds. Actually got about 300 Sav vels. Another waste of time but it was fun doing it... and used pointy bullets
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 07-14-2017, 01:42 AM
Frank46 Frank46 is offline
US Veteran
Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings  
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: New Iberia, Louisiana
Posts: 3,178
Likes: 17,462
Liked 1,638 Times in 935 Posts
Default

I have a couple winchester 94's in 30-30.My favorite ammo for them is the winchester power point 170 grain loading. I recently got a 1894 Canadian Centennial rifle with the 26" lomg barrel. Globe front target type site for up forward and either steel Lyman 57 back aft. Pristine bore on this one so this rifle most likely will get the treatment with castbullets. Md model 27 Finnish reworked Moisin Nagant I've been shooting castbullets through and it is a joy to shoot. Same standard receipe I've been using these last 20 odd years.
100 Hansen cases
1927 Finnish reworked Moisin Nagant
Lyman 314299 sized to .314 and gas checked and lubed with Javelina lube. Powder charge is 20.0 grains IMR 4759 and estimated velocity is between 1600 to 1800 feet per second. Winchester Large Primer to set it all off. made up a mini neck sizing die so it will only size about .003. So far no case trimming needed.Frank
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 07-14-2017, 09:21 AM
2152hq 2152hq is offline
Member
Favorite 30-30 loadings  
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 4,475
Likes: 229
Liked 2,132 Times in 1,072 Posts
Default

When I still had a 30-30, a MArlin 93, I loaded most all with 3031. I did make some light cast bullet loads up with bullseye and I think red-dot. The rifle is long gone down the road.
I do load 30Remington for Model 8 semi auto. The charge weights are just about identicle between the 30-30 and the 30Rem,as they are betw the 32WCF and the 32Rem.
I use both 3031 and more recently H4595 in the 30Rem. Both work nicely with even the starting loads operating the action. Accuracy is what I expect from these old autoloaders the ballistics mirror their WCF counterpart cartridges.
One thing about the 30 and 32 Rem bores is that they are supposed to be about a .000 or 2 under standard groove dia (.306/7 as opposed to .308 and .319/20 as opposed to .321 in the 32Rem. I've never slugged them to verify on my rifles and never had any problems with either factory jacketed or cast.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 07-14-2017, 01:57 PM
mtgianni mtgianni is offline
Member
Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings  
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: SW MT
Posts: 2,864
Likes: 1,022
Liked 1,244 Times in 718 Posts
Default

I have never shot a jacketed load in 30-30. My 94 likes the RCBS 180 fp and a fp Ranch dog mold in 165 gr. 14" contender likes the RD mold and 311440. A light load is 3118 and 6-8.5 gr. Herco.
__________________
Front sight and squeeze
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 07-16-2017, 01:58 PM
Eagle223usa Eagle223usa is offline
Member
Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings  
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Pa
Posts: 107
Likes: 176
Liked 73 Times in 30 Posts
Default

I just started casting and loading for 30-30 in a 1941 M94 20". I am using my cast bullet, Lyman .311041 cast from 50/50 WW and Lino and sized to .309. I am using 3031. I got decent 50 yard accuracy but some oblong holes. I loaded the next batch with bullets sized to .311, we will see how it works.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 07-16-2017, 03:32 PM
DWalt's Avatar
DWalt DWalt is offline
Member
Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings Favorite 30-30 loadings  
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: South Texas
Posts: 19,146
Likes: 2
Liked 9,901 Times in 5,686 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eagle223usa View Post
I just started casting and loading for 30-30 in a 1941 M94 20". I am using my cast bullet, Lyman .311041 cast from 50/50 WW and Lino and sized to .309. I am using 3031. I got decent 50 yard accuracy but some oblong holes. I loaded the next batch with bullets sized to .311, we will see how it works.
If you are getting keyholing (really yawing, evidenced by oblong holes in the target), it generally means that the bullets are too long to stabilize properly at the gun's rifling twist, at least at that MV. I doubt increasing the bullet diameter will cure that, but it's worth a try. I have fired 220 grain RNFMJ .308 bullets in my .30-30 and they also tend to keyhole a bit. Even so, they don't group too badly at 50 yards. It would probably produce much worse groups at 100 yards or more, but I have not tried shooting them at longer distances.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
10mm factory loadings ? PatriotX Ammo 10 11-16-2016 07:30 PM
25-35 loadings retired_diver Reloading 11 01-07-2015 01:14 PM
How many loadings are you getting out of your 44 Mag brass? SLT223 Reloading 14 12-10-2014 08:55 PM
Older M-15 & +P loadings cobalt402 S&W Hand Ejectors: 1896 to 1961 3 07-27-2011 09:23 AM
586 and 94C shared loadings RustyShackleford S&W Revolvers: 1980 to the Present 6 02-03-2011 02:37 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:54 AM.


S-W Forum, LLC 2000-2015
Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)