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Old 07-16-2017, 04:23 PM
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I bought some 158 grain lead flat point bullets that I intended to use to hand load 38 special. I was dismayed when I found very little load data for 158 grain lead. Titegroup is my go to powder for most 38 lead loads, but I couldn't find any data for Titegroup with 158 grain lead in my Lee, Lyman, or Speer manuals, and I couldn't find it on Hodgdonreloading.com.

If someone has data for this combination, could you please share it with me, and tell me where you found it?
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Bullet Weight158 GR. CAST LSWC

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Powder Titegroup
Bullet Diameter .358"
C.O.L. 1.475"
Starting Load
Grains 3.2
Velocity (ft/s) 815
Pressure 11,500 CUP
Maximum Load
Grains 3.8
Velocity (ft/s) 920
Pressure 15,400 CUP
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Bullet Weight158 GR. CAST LSWC

Hodgdon
Powder Titegroup
Bullet Diameter .358"
C.O.L. 1.475"
Starting Load
Grains 3.2
Velocity (ft/s) 815
Pressure 11,500 CUP
Maximum Load
Grains 3.8
Velocity (ft/s) 920
Pressure 15,400 CUP
Thanks. I looked there earlier, and all I could find was XTP. I guess I did something wrong. Anyway, I appreciate the help.
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3.3 -3.4 gr TG for 158gr LRNFP (coated) is a recipe I had on file for 38 special.
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Old 07-16-2017, 08:37 PM
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I've been using the 3.8gr load for years. Very accurate in my 686.
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Thanks. I looked there earlier, and all I could find was XTP. I guess I did something wrong. Anyway, I appreciate the help.
The 158 gn cast LSWC load appears to the right of the XTP load on my iPad and beneath it on my iPhone.
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Thanks. I looked there earlier, and all I could find was XTP. I guess I did something wrong. Anyway, I appreciate the help.
The 158 gn cast LSWC load appears to the right of the XTP load on my iPad and beneath it on my iPhone.
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3.4 grains of Titegroup works great with 158 LSWC.
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I would agree with others in the 3.4ish range.

BTW, Tightgroup burns hot and is therefore not considered a great match for lead as it produces more smoke than some other powders. It shoots accurately though. I use it for plated bullets all the time.
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I load 158 grain RNL bullets over 3.2 gr. of Titegroup which is a very accurate and mild load for punching paper. I have many Vintage Revolvers (some 100 + years old) and so I use this starting load for Lead Bullets. I see no reason to shorten the life of Vintage Revolvers just for the purpose of Target Shooting.

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The 158 gn cast LSWC load appears to the right of the XTP load on my iPad and beneath it on my iPhone.
Due to being below the equator.

Aim left and up a little.
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