My first load of these were seated at 1.16 and would not plunk into my Shield chamber however they shot excellent out of my revolver S&W 625 with HP38 @ 5.4gr and Titegroup @ 4.8gr.
I loaded another batch @ OAL of 1.14 to work in my Shield. That pretty much is just about shoulder flush to the case. I will be curious on how the Shield does with them, so far the Shield 45 has performed well with 200gr SWC's and standard 230gr RN bullets. We will see if it feeds these 185's or not.
I have a 1000 Badman Bullet 200 SWC's due to arrive tomorrow so those are next in line
Karl