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Old 08-12-2017, 01:33 PM
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4grs and a 158 RNFP from Missouri bullets, lubed

66 4"

731
688
719
705
749
734

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66 6"

773
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What is the question?

First, 6 round samples are not statistically significant. You really nee to fire at least 20 round samples to be even reasonably confident in the data obtained.

Second, velocity results from different guns mean nothing when compared with each other. I have .38 Spl and .357 Magnum revolvers ranging from 2" to 6 1/2". Often my 4" guns will show higher velocity with the same load than any of my 6 and 6 1/2" guns! It will take chronographing hundreds of rounds in each gun to make a significant observation of the relative velocity potential of each of your revolvers.
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Those appear to be light .38 loads.....If that is what you're striving for great!
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Not much to comment on.

Did you have fun?

How about building a story behind your data

Or pictures of the guns and targets, heck or even puppies
Everyone likes puppy pictures

Or you can list all the details, so everyone can tell you what you did wrong
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What is the question?

First, 6 round samples are not statistically significant. You really nee to fire at least 20 round samples to be even reasonably confident in the data obtained.

Second, velocity results from different guns mean nothing when compared with each other. I have .38 Spl and .357 Magnum revolvers ranging from 2" to 6 1/2". Often my 4" guns will show higher velocity with the same load than any of my 6 and 6 1/2" guns! It will take chronographing hundreds of rounds in each gun to make a significant observation of the relative velocity potential of each of your revolvers.
It's an answer, not a question. Who cares if it's not statistically significant? It shows real world results, not Hodgdon's overly optimistic velocities.
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Simply following up on a previous post about Universal loads. Very mild loads obviously.
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But which thread or post?

Did someone say PUPPIES??


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"It shows real world results, not Hodgdon's overly optimistic velocities."

Especially with revolvers, you can't believe the MV information provided in anyone's reloading data. Not the bullet manufacturers, the powder manufacturers, the reloading equipment manufacturers, no one.
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"It shows real world results, not Hodgdon's overly optimistic velocities."

Especially with revolvers, you can't believe the MV information provided in anyone's reloading data. Not the bullet manufacturers, the powder manufacturers, the reloading equipment manufacturers, no one.
Which is why I bothered to measure them. I'll try 4.5 grs next. I like mild stuff in these K frame's.
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"It shows real world results, not Hodgdon's overly optimistic velocities."

Especially with revolvers, you can't believe the MV information provided in anyone's reloading data. Not the bullet manufacturers, the powder manufacturers, the reloading equipment manufacturers, no one.
I for one greatly enjoy reading about the chrono results other are getting in their guns. So keep those results coming everyone.
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Old 08-13-2017, 08:21 AM
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I see ALK8944 is reminding us all of our college statistics class

I also like to see the different chrono results. I have had similar behavior with 44mag and Universal. I used 7 different 44Magnums to test against factory and noticed with Universal the short barrel power port turned in greater velocity than a 7in barrel. I also measured cyclinder gap to take that into consideration also. 44 Magnum The Most Versatile Handgun Caliber : Day At The Range

Sometimes its just about getting out and having fun and using a chronograph can be fun. It doesn't all the time have to be statistically relevant.
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I found that if you run out of Alliant Unique powder...
Universal can take over the job in either 12 Ga. or my 38 or 357 loads.

Seems a little cleaner and meters better and one thing I liked.....

it was a great powder for X-lite target loads with a 125 grain bullet
in my little J frame snub nose, at around 600fps.
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With 38 cases I got 857 with a medium load of Universal.

In a 357 case you make that 158gr lead bullet get up to 1315fps out of a 6" barrel....
or pull the reins in to a mild 1156fps.
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Looks like good data to me. I shoot 38 level loads in my .357 with a 6" barrel. Thanks, Stan
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