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Old 09-04-2017, 11:02 AM
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Well I loaded up some 115grn Berry's plated bullets over 4.1 grns of Titegroup. that was too weak to operate the pistol. 4.3 much better but still not enough power to rack the slide. I am at 4.6 and they shoot like a dream. Accurate and flawless function.
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Old 09-04-2017, 11:35 AM
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4.6 grs. ?

Is it a new "Stiff" pistol or have a heavy recoil spring?

My C-9 with a 115gr works with 3.6 grs. of Bullseye.
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Old 09-04-2017, 11:43 AM
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its a brand new Shield. Not many rounds through it yet at all.
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Titegroup is a versatile, reliable and economical powder. It does, however, have a reputation for burning dirty. While it certainly is not a "bad" choice for loading 9mm, perhaps there are better choices out there.

Also, you may want to shoot your Shield a lot more before settling on a load, as it sounds as though your gun could use some breaking in.
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Old 09-04-2017, 12:39 PM
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Good advice! I am going to put another 200 or so through it today!
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4.7 works for me in all of my 9mms........not getting the best of groups, but I suspect that is more me than the gun or ammo......
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Yep, 200 more rounds of anything and a little oil on the slide
will help break that new pistol in.

I had a new 12 Ga. auto that needed oil so it would function
on my first three trips to the trap club. Took 350 rounds before
it was almost broke in.

A new pistol is fun to have but it needs to be "Burped" in its infant stages.
Have fun.
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Shorter the slide the stiffer the recoils spring, true of any manuf.
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Wow: Am currently using only 3.2 gr. of TG w/ a 125 grain cast.

These are light loads but work the slides in a Smith 439, Smith 5906, and 2 different 1911's in 9mm.

Agree with Fred............short slide and powerful spring in that Shield. My sister has a Shield and I believe her's spit my light loads without a failure, but, hers has had around 500 rounds put through it.
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I have used and liked Titegroup in a lot of my reloaded calibers, like any powder just make sure you have the proper amount and are choosing the correct load for bullet weight and design.

I don't know your shooting experience so I offer these thoughts..........
Your load on 115gr seems fine, you may find that if you strengthen your wrist a bit more it may help cycle your slide. The smaller guns take a strong wrist to assist in cycling the slide, it is not uncommon especially on a new 'tight' small gun to get a few 'limp wrist' cycling issues. As the gun breaks in and you perfect your grip technique it just gets better
Enjoy the Shield!
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I use anywhere from 3.8 to 4.2 grains of TG under 124 grain plated bullets. This comes from Hodgdon's web page, Set your sights on pistol reloading data | Hodgdon Reloading

These loads work well with a variety of 9mm pistols: 5906, 915, Sig P239, and new M&P Shield (which was very stiff initially but is now more broken in). I was worried 3.8 might not work well with the heavier slides of the full size 3d Gen pistols, but it works fine. Accuracy seems good, too.

TG is known also for "going a long way" (there are a lot of loads in a pound of it, at 3.8 grains a round) and for the dangers of double-charging a shell (since it takes up so little space). As mentioned in other threads, I incorporated in my loading process a check of each tray of 50, after powder has been dropped, using a small flashlight to peer into each shell. (I don't know if I fear a double-load or a non-load more).

So my experience is limited, but I like TG a lot.
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Been using titegroup for a few years now. 3.9gns under a 115gn xtreme round nose runs fine in all my 9mms, including my shield. You didn't mention case oal. Equally important as charge, etc. I've settled on 1.125 oal for this load.
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My OAL is 1.140
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