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Old 09-18-2017, 09:42 AM
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I recently bought a large lot of ammo guns and reloading equipment from a local fellow who's brother passed away. Literally more than a ton and a half(no joke). Quite a bit of the ammo is factory. But much is reloads. I won't shoot the rifle reloads... or any of the magnum handgun stuff. 38sp 44sp and 45acp and Colt I will pull down and use. What can I do with the other stuff? I have at least a couple thousand rounds of 357 maybe a thousand 44 mag and hundreds of rounds of rifle ammo I don't even have rifles for. Some of the handgun ammo is marked with the loading data so may check random rounds and shoot it if it is as marked. What is the best way to dispose of the rest of the ammo? There must be 500 rounds of just 7mm Rem mag. Hate to dump all that stuff... in fact the local landfill will not take it. No....didn't pay much for it all but it seems such a waste.
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If it were me, I might try to dismantle any ammo that was not crimped.
Crimped lead and jacket ammo is not worth it for me.

It depends on what you think your time is worth or the work involved.

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Turn it over to an auction company that is having a "Sporting goods auction". It will sell, not as high as factory, but worth your time to do it.
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Set yourself a daily task of xxx rounds to separate.

The only thing I'd dispose of would be the powder.

I would never shoot someone else's reloads in any of my fine revolvers or rifles.
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What is the best way to dispose of the rest of the ammo?
Disassemble the reloaded ammunition, dispose of the unknown powder and sell the remaining components.

I don't shoot anyone else's reloads unless I know them and their technique - and there's only one other reloader I know that well.
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I took 20 rounds of 45 Colt apart...it was supposed to be 8 gr of Uniques and all of the m weighed within a 10th either way. Didn't look the load up yet. I just went through the rest of the stuff kinda seperating rifle and pistol. I have over a thousand rounds of 357 and almost 2000 rounds of 38 sp... Not going to break that all down. Have 600 rounds of 44 mag loaded with 231 and 220 lead bullets. There is at least 1200 rounds of 45 auto. I have shot others reloads in the past but mostly shotshell loads. Never rifle or pistol. Heck I got 47 boxes of 12 ga trap loads..reloads of course. 21 boxes of factory 20 ga shells. He had 1 box of 9mm reloads but doubt he did them..he had no 9mm dies and a lot of brass...11 boxes + of factory loads though. I don't think I want to pull all of those bullets. He had more than 4000 rounds of rifle reloads from 22 Hornet to 375 H&H...lots of 45-70 too.
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Before you bought all that reloaded ammo what was your thinking on it?

The price had to be extremely good and there are other items in the deal that are a lot more desirable.
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I won't shoot others reloads. So I would either spend the time to pull it down & salvage components or toss it.
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I would sell off the reloads but not as ammo, as components. This way if someone dies shoot it and something bad happens you are not liable. When sold as components they are agreeing to break them down. I also like the suggestion above to sell them to an auction house. Again you have no liability.
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I've only seen one blowup involving mystery handloads, but that was impressive enough for me. Witnessing one was fairly exciting.
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I'd pull the bullets with a kinetic puller, burn the powder in my driveway at night and re-use the brass and bullets. I certainly wouldn't throw it away.
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Sounds like you're not too concerned with the value. Give it away to your local fellow shooters.
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That's way too much to pull down. Chuck what you don't want and move on. I'm assuming you bought it all for a song.
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I would get a collet type bullet puller and pull down the rifle stuff at least. The 500 rounds of 7 Mag would net a nice little pile of profit by itself, just selling primed brass and the pulled bullets. And pull down the 22 Hornet also as that brass should sell pretty quickly and the bullets can be sold or reused too. I would also do this with all the other rifle reloads you got; all you need is the proper shell holder and collet for the puller. I would take all the powder and make myself a few piles in the yard and satisfy my pyromania by lighting it up. As for the pistol stuff, maybe try selling it as components to be broken down by the buyer to get the liability off yourself.
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Got it all really cheap.. There is a bunch of factory loads in the batch..I will mostly sell it off. I also got 5 reloading presses and approx 75 boxes of bullets for reloading as well as almost 20 lbs of powder..and another 12 cans of powder that were partially used. Except for the red dot and green dot it will all get burned. Got some extra barrels for shotguns and 3 rifles. One of the bbls is a Super X 1 skeet bbl.
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When I used to end up with reloaded rifle and pistol ammo,,and the stuff looked nice and clean,,I would sell it at a gunshow 'for components only'.

I priced the stuff for about 1/2 of what the bullets cost if purchased for reloading
Jacketed commercial softpoint bullets are not cheap for the reloader to buy,,so if priced very affordable, they seemed to sell quickly.
Especially when stacked in lots like the 500rds of 7mm Mag together, the buyer quickly realized he/she is getting a great deal on the bullets and the cases w/ primer are free,,for their labor of pull-down.

Trying to squeeze a lot of $$ from it and you end up carrying it all back home again.
Get it cheap,,sell it cheap and make a couple bucks on it.

Pulling the large lot down is just too much to think about for me. Maybe if there was something extra special of interest in the lot for me personally, I'd set that aside. A big bore caliber,,ect where the brass would be worth the time to reclaim as well as the bullets. Some of the rare big bore calibers can sell for many dollars a single case.

I admit to shooting shotshell reloads not of my own making. They were $1/box.
1 1/4oz 12ga loads. Couldn't help myself.
4 flats all gone in a Remington Sportsman 48 at skeet. Real shoulder pounders.
My good angle said to reclaim the lead,,,so much work though..

You almost have to give away reloaded ammo,,and sometimes that's the solution if you don't want a lot of work for yourself.
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Give it to my brother in law. Maybe there's a double charge in it some where.
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I would get a collet type bullet puller and pull down the rifle stuff at least. The 500 rounds of 7 Mag would net a nice little pile of profit by itself, just selling primed brass and the pulled bullets. And pull down the 22 Hornet also as that brass should sell pretty quickly and the bullets can be sold or reused too. I would also do this with all the other rifle reloads you got; all you need is the proper shell holder and collet for the puller. I would take all the powder and make myself a few piles in the yard and satisfy my pyromania by lighting it up. As for the pistol stuff, maybe try selling it as components to be broken down by the buyer to get the liability off yourself.
Have an old Herter's collet puller(made by RCBS) and got another in this batch of stuff. The Hornet 243 22-250 and some of the other rifle stuff I will break down 444 45-70 too. All 4 boxes of 375 H&H are factory. Doubt I would ever shoot 300 gr solids though. Y'all are right about selling the rest as components cheap.
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Give it to my brother in law. Maybe there's a double charge in it some where.
No.... EX WIFE!!! oh sorry..she is already gone!
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In no way either shoot or sell those reloads! I saw part of a friend's cheek & nose ripped off from a .44 Mag cartridge that was supposed to have 24 grs. of W296 in it, but instead had a full case of Unique. Guy firing the Ruger SBH was just to the left of my friend. Am I trying to scare you? Damn right I am!

BTW, some people put their reloads into factory boxes, so look at them carefully too (e.g. different color primers or different bullets in one box).

Don't sell them with the agreement that the person will disassemble them. Probably wouldn't hold up in a civil suit.

Just have the patience to pull the lead bullets w/a kinetic puller & the jacketed bullets w/an RCBS puller that fits into a single-stage press. Do a little at a time.

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well talked to a friend last night. He is coming to visit in late Oct. He is going to take a bunch of this stuff. He is one of only 2 people's handloads I will shoot...and I am one of 'em. I found 2 boxes of 30 US Gummit with Silvertips A bit tarnished but ok to shoot. other older stuff too. 38-55 38-40 and 32-40...got 4 lbs of black powder...some kinda Swiss powder? Did 150 rds of 7 RM with the bullet puller. Time consuming for certain.
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Got it all really cheap.. There is a bunch of factory loads in the batch..I will mostly sell it off. I also got 5 reloading presses and approx 75 boxes of bullets for reloading as well as almost 20 lbs of powder..and another 12 cans of powder that were partially used. Except for the red dot and green dot it will all get burned. Got some extra barrels for shotguns and 3 rifles. One of the bbls is a Super X 1 skeet bbl.
Are you a Super X 1 affectionado?
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well talked to a friend last night. He is coming to visit in late Oct. He is going to take a bunch of this stuff. He is one of only 2 people's handloads I will shoot...and I am one of 'em. I found 2 boxes of 30 US Gummit with Silvertips A bit tarnished but ok to shoot. other older stuff too. 38-55 38-40 and 32-40...got 4 lbs of black powder...some kinda Swiss powder? Did 150 rds of 7 RM with the bullet puller. Time consuming for certain.
If that Swiss powder is in a blue plastic 1 lb can it will say what granule it is, IE; 1.5f, 2 f, 3 f, etc. Stuff sells for $ 26 a lb. and is very clean burning and consistent.
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Post a price for the reloads you don't want. If price is very good, I may buy it and do the tear down. Contact me: [email protected]
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I bought a fellow cowboy shooter's 45 Schofield reloads. Over 700 of them. I didn't care what he loaded in them, he was shooting repo Schofields, I used them up in an 92 Puma and Ruger Vaqueros. If they didn't hurt his guns, they sure weren't going to hurt mine. Shotgun ammo is a whole different ballgame!!!!

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Are you a Super X 1 affectionado?
Not really. They were well made guns though even if they were too expensive. Only decent semiauto shotgun Winchester ever made. Just going to sell the bbl. I mostly shot 1100s in the 12 ga.

The Swiss is in blue plastic containers. Also found a couple of other cans of Black Goex..gonna give it to a friend for his cannon and mortar..He'll have fun with it.

As far as selling the reloads I may sell some but don't think I should send it by UPS. There is much and the shipping would be prohibitive.

I have a Marlin 1894 44 mag and may shoot some of the 44's..the ones that are marked with the load...after I check a portion randomly. 8 gr of 231 with a lead 220 gr bullet should be ok.I have checked 10% of the 45 Colts and they seem to be ok..but not hot loads anyway. As far as shotshells they are all trap loads with red dot and green dot..I will check a few randomly and sell them as components. Shotshells usually are pretty benign but I wouldn't shoot them in my K-80s...I've never personally shot a 12 ga round in 'em anyway.. 450K of the others though.

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I took 20 rounds of 45 Colt apart...it was supposed to be 8 gr of Uniques...
How do you know that it was supposed to be 8 gr of Unique (not Uniques)?

My prior advice (which is sill the safest course of action) was based on the fact that in the OP you didn't seem to know what powder or charge was in each case.

If the record-keeping is adequate, then you may also be able to salvage the powder as well - or if you sample some cases and the load is consistent with that is on the label, then you may want to consider trusting the reloader.
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In no way either shoot or sell those reloads! I saw part of a friend's cheek & nose ripped off from a .44 Mag cartridge that was supposed to have 24 grs. of W296 in it, but instead had a full case of Unique. ... Am I trying to scare you? ... [Yes] I am!
As I said, you have to decide based on the documentation left by the reloader how far you trust him.

There are six people who trust my reloads enough to shoot them. Four are family members, one has reloaded with me for 40 years and the sixth is a blithering idiot.
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Another great estate sale! The Lesson Learned is "SHOOT YOUR RELOADS", take more trips to the range, consume all your ammo!
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How do you know that it was supposed to be 8 gr of Unique (not Uniques)?

If the record-keeping is adequate, then you may also be able to salvage the powder as well - or if you sample some cases and the load is consistent with that is on the label, then you may want to consider trusting the reloader.
The Uniques was just a mistype. Some of the boxes are marked with the loads..some are not. Any magnums(handgun loads) will not be shot by me anyway. Rifle loads are all going to be torn down. As far as the reloader..He's no longer among the ranks of the living. It is just that there is SO much handgun ammo. and much of it is loose. The guy was a smoker and there are at least 50 Pall Mall cigarette flip top boxes full of ammo..unmarked as to loads of course. They were all packed in a Tall ammo can. a tall rocket(Laws??) box..
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... other older stuff too. 38-55 38-40 and 32-40...got 4 lbs of black powder...some kinda Swiss powder? Did 150 rds of 7 RM with the bullet puller. Time consuming for certain.
Swiss is a brand of black powder and highly thought of among black powder shooters. The cartridges you mention are often loaded with black powder. .32-40 is particularly well thought of by the Schuetzen crowd.

As rule I don't shoot reloads from folks I don't know and trust either. The 7 mag you pulled down, any reason to think it was assembled poorly? The 8 grain Unique .45 Colt load is pretty standard. Reloads from a guy with high quality target guns, good notebooks, well marked ammo AND known to be a regular shooter are one thing. If his friends would not stand close to him on the range is quite another. If there were shooters among the kin, did just sell the calibers they didn't shoot themselves?

Cartridges that are chambered in both a weak antiques and strong modern guns, such as .45 Colt or .45-70 are more worrisome.
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As rule I don't shoot reloads from folks I don't know and trust either. The 7 mag you pulled down, any reason to think it was assembled poorly? The 8 grain Unique .45 Colt load is pretty standard.
Cartridges that are chambered in both a weak antiques and strong modern guns, such as .45 Colt or .45-70 are more worrisome.
Well The 7 mag is loaded with various bullets and powders as it probably should be. It is easy to break down compared to many others. The cals I shoot I will break down like the Hornet 243 etc etc. Have found a bunch of 25-06 made from 30-06. Necks were even reamed which is a good sign. couple hundred commercial 25-06 too. None loaded. Even about 250 30-06 AI. Fireformed. about 200 444(some new) brass and the same of 45-70 and some loaded 45-70 with jacketed 300 gr bullets Boxes are marked with the load but will take it down anyway. The biggest concern to me is the handgun ammo. Even though I recently acquired about 500 44 Sp cases there are a couple hundred in this stuff as well as some loaded. Just too much to break down. Evidently there were no other shooters in the family His neighbor got almost all of the handguns
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I would sell off the reloads but not as ammo, as components. This way if someone dies shoot it and something bad happens you are not liable. When sold as components they are agreeing to break them down. I also like the suggestion above to sell them to an auction house. Again you have no liability.
Selling as "components" won't lessen liability if they are still complete rounds...
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Regarding the 7mm Rem. Magnum, I think we all can agree that you cannot double-charge this case without a major spillage. I would check the reload label on the box, if the reloader prepared it, then compare it to published loading data to insure that the reloads are within published parameters. Next, many of the reloading manuals contain photos of the various powders. Dismantle a round and compare the powder contained against what it is supposed to look like. I would also weigh a few powder charges. My guess is that these rounds are safe to fire.
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Too bad you are not in my area. I would be happy to take some of the reloads to break down for components. I was given 1000rds of Philippine 5.56mm cartridges years ago that were being recalled by the importer due to erratic pressures. My son and I had a great time using a kinetic bullet puller to disassemble, remove the powder, then reload the cartridges with fresh powder. Then we had a fun time at the range.
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Too bad you are not in my area. I would be happy to take some of the reloads to break down for components...
Ditto. I'd be happy to buy them dirt cheap for the components. Bullets and primers are worth more than 5 cents a round, so I'd jump at a chance get them for a couple of bucks a box to break down. But I'm pretty cheap that way.
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I'll take the .357 ammo if you don't want it, PM me if interested in shipping the stuff.
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Went through 4 totes of stuff yesterday. had approx 2000 rounds of 38 Sp...surprised but about 5-700 rounds are jacketed bullets Maybe 50% are marked as to loads. 1000 rounds of 357 50% jacketed 15 boxes of 220 Swift loaded. 17 boxes of 7mm Mag...8 boxes once fired brass(or so it is marked).7 more totes to go..and then all the ammo boxes. The fellow died in a house fire. I have a few items that were in the room he died in I may post a picture of just one item. Luckily the ammo and other items were in the garage(detached). Evidently the guy was a hoarder as his brother took many tons of junk to the landfill. I thank all you fellows that want to purchase this stuff but to be honest shipping most of it would be a pain..and expensive..no problem with face to face Wyoming is probably a long way from most of you
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Since You have no idea what the powder charge is I would pull the Bullets and reload them Myself.
You never know what kind of day the Guy that loaded them was having. Better safe than sorry.
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Well quite a few have the powder charges on the boxes...some don't Some of all this mess IS factory. I found a fairly large can of 9mm. About half is factory...the rest are reloads. I will definitely NOT shoot reloaded 9mms...that aren't mine anyway. The rifle rounds are going to be torn down and loaded (by me) again. At least the ones I shoot. But I have 23 boxes of 220 Swift 28 boxes of 7mm Mag etc etc. I did want to post a pic of one item I got that was in the deceased's bedroom. What a shame. The rifle was even worse This is a Unertl Ultra Varminter in 20 power. It was on a Win M-70 target in 243..Pre 64. Stock was of course ruined..the barrel is still straight the action was in very bad condition.. but it has been sent to a (good) gunsmith to be re-heat treated and refinished. I actually have a pre 64 stock for it and will make sure it is fitted correctly. Kinda neat the gun can be brought back to useable condition..this scope not very likely. Well the lens covers are still ok
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OP: good to hear you're gaining on The Plan with your massive PileOStuff.

I've come across similar but farFAR smaller stashes before. Always a conundrum between choices. I can certify breaking down 900 rounds of 9mm is tedious at best.

re: " The Lesson Learned is "SHOOT YOUR RELOADS", take more trips to the range, consume all your ammo!" This is wise advise, and looking over my OWN reloaded collection, I've been shooting since last spring nearly weekly, and have yet to reload anything since then. Actually took inventory last spring and was surprised/shocked to find what 'the count' was. Demonstrated the need for discipline in keeping 'reloading time' and 'range time' strictly scheduled!
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Good reloaders are generally borderline Obsessive and because of this tend to keep records. They also tend to stick to specific recipe's once they have found one that works. So I would suggest that you look for this persons notebook or note card case. If you can find that you can then break down samples of each caliber and compare the measured results to the recipes for that caliber. If they match and are good listed loads in the current load manuals than I would think they would be safe to use.
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This fellow wasn't borderline obsessive. He was full blown.. And a hoarder but also at the same time was a a bit of a drinker(according to his brother) I have checked about 15 of the reloaded 220 Swift that had data on the boxes and they were on the money. He had three well used scales.Next to be torn down are the 45-70 and then the 25-06. Going to try some of the hornets in my Contender...they're all marked
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Borderline or full blown Obsessive depends on your viewpoint. My Maternal Grandfather graduated from the University of Cincinnati with 5 separate degrees in Engineering, Electrical, Mechanical, Civil, Architectural, and Engineering Mechanics. Every single one of his grandchildren can be classified as High Functioning Obsessive, which means that when something interests us it gets our full dedication. IMO that is "borderline" rather than Full Blown. Because it results in an enhanced level of success rather that something that impedes success or degrades daily life.
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Borderline or full blown Obsessive depends on your viewpoint. My Maternal Grandfather graduated from the University of Cincinnati with 5 separate degrees in Engineering, Electrical, Mechanical, Civil, Architectural, and Engineering Mechanics. Every single one of his grandchildren can be classified as High Functioning Obsessive, which means that when something interests us it gets our full dedication. IMO that is "borderline" rather than Full Blown. Because it results in an enhanced level of success rather that something that impedes success or degrades daily life.
^^^^^ What??!! lol. I think the guy was very obsessive. He had an awful lot of ammo he surely didn't shoot. Seems like much of his reloaded rifle ammo was on new factory brass...Well some of the 7 Mag were fired
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There is a least one incorrect load among that many rounds, either over or squib. I would not fire any, my luck the first round would be the incorrect one.
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