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View Poll Results: Do you have a portable back-up reloader for your EDC?
My EDC is a wheelgun. 9 21.95%
My EDC is a semi-auto. 4 9.76%
I have a Lyman tong tool. 4 9.76%
I have a Lee Loader. 5 12.20%
I have some other type of portable reloader. 7 17.07%
I never considered a back-up reloader. 27 65.85%
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I was wondering, with the current state of international affairs and the uncertainty of the DRK, do you have a portable, back-up reloader (i.e.: Lyman 310 tool or Lee Loader) that is mobile that can be employed to reload ammo for your EDC in the event of an EMP or the need to relocate on the PDQ?
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My plan is to use the same ammo as the JBT's
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My EDC can be either a semi-auto or a revolver, but in the event of a bug out scenario, I will probably resort to a 357, and rely on my Lyman 310 tool when ammo gets scarce.
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The first two options were confusing ? Nothing to do with reloaders and you can only vote for one option...is this a trick question ?

I have a portable reloader and can use it for every gun I own.
Lee Hand Press. Goes in a big tool box with everything needed to reload whatever needs reloading.
Actually I have two Hand Presses they are ...Handy !
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I have no need for a back-up reloader; I'll just grab a green ammo can with plenty of ammo in it. Takes up less space than reloading gear and supplies.

And what would an EMP have to do with reloading?
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In the event of an "EMP", reloading will be the least of your worries.

In the fantasy world of bug out bags and relocating to a hidden Shangri-La deep in the mountains, you'll have a lot more to worry about than guns and ammo.
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Yep; and if you don't already have that old missile silo bunker conversion or your mountaintop off-the-grid secret place, it's too late
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I have a bunch of tong tools and about 15 different die sets, about 30 Lee loaders, and Lee made a "Nut Cracker" for 7/8-14 dies. And I have a few other systems that are portable! I keep a 50 cal ammo can with a Lee Loader, a pound of powder, 1000 primers, bullets and/or a mold, and the lube and little extras for 45/70 and a separate ammo can for 38 Special and 44 Special (310 tool) stacked with the Bug out supplies! I have a battery scale and scoops in both set ups too! There is a sheet of "how to" instruction and a loading data sheet for several powders and bullets, so a novice could take over for me. These particular guns/loading sets were chosen because they can be loaded with Black or several smokeless powders, and will perform well with cast or jacketed bullets of many weights!

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If I'm going to be away from my reloading bench for a while, I'll take plenty of handloads with me and not rely on reloading. For my "just in case" stash I keep 200 rounds of 9mm with a tested load and 150-200 rounds for my 45 ACPs. For any long term ammo needs I'll take my Lee Loaders...
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I normally carry factory, but I have enough reloaded ammo for every gu I own that I won't need my reloading equipment for several years if isolated, and enough powder and bullets & primers to make that much again. Minimum of 1,000 rounds per caliber (and much more is certain calibers).
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The inside-the-realm-of-possibility disasters around here are: catastrophic blizzard. And that's pretty much it. In which case I bet the gas fireplace will keep my little dogs warm, as it did a few years ago when we were without power for 4 days.

Which is great. There ain't any good eatin' on those dogs. And my neighbors is all them scrawny suburban types.
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I have a bunch of tong tools and about 15 different die sets, about 30 Lee loaders, and Lee made a "Nut Cracker" for 7/8-14 dies. And I have a few other systems that are portable! I keep a 50 cal ammo can with a Lee Loader, a pound of powder, 1000 primers, bullets and/or a mold, and the lube and little extras for 45/70 and a separate ammo can for 38 Special and 44 Special (310 tool) stacked with the Bug out supplies! I have a battery scale and scoops in both set ups too! There is a sheet of "how to" instruction and a loading data sheet for several powders and bullets, so a novice could take over for me. These particular guns/loading sets were chosen because they can be loaded with Black or several smokeless powders, and will perform well with cast or jacketed bullets of many weights!

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My stash, also, is well stocked with factory ammo. Not that I don't have the ability to load tons more, just that it won't be necessary. My biggest concern is if I have to bug out, I can't possibly carry all the guns and ammo that I might need for the next 30 years. Personally, I'm planning on getting by on my smarts, and chutzpah.
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I don't have any portable reloading equipment, but I did just order a set of Lee powder measures. The only electronic element of my reloading process is a digital scale. I hope that the powder measures would let me continue to make ammo so I could play with revolvers even if I were deprived of batteries and electricity for an extended period.
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I was wondering, with the current state of international affairs and the uncertainty of the DRK, do you have a portable, back-up reloader (i.e.: Lyman 310 tool or Lee Loader) that is mobile that can be employed to reload ammo for your EDC in the event of an EMP or the need to relocate on the PDQ?
This is totally illogical. First, why wouldn't your primary reloader work in the event of a EMP strike? And second, relocate to where? You've got a roof over your head now and some food in the house, I assume, so where are you going to go? And how are you going to get there since nobody's car will work and there will be no way to get gas out of any gas station tanks? Read "One Second After" to get a better take on the totality of the destruction of the electrical grid.

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Please, let me clarify a little.

First, I was curious whether a carrier would take the time to police and recycle brass from a semi-auto, or rely on a revolver which will put the brass in your hand.

Second, I realize that a press won't be affected by an EMP, however, scales most likely will. Not everyone uses a balance beam scale today, so the next option would be volume dippers, like you get with a Lee Loader.

Third, I do realize that the most secure position in most cases is your home, where your press is in your reloading room. However, in some instances you may have to relocate (be it a storm, i.e.: Sandy, Harvey, Irma, etc or other catastrophe, or because staying put increases the risk because of external factors such as flash mobs or other forms of civil unrest) and relocating your reloading room may be out of the question.
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This is a popular and continuing scenario, but also totally illogical. If placed in a true SHTF situation and having to "bug-out" with what you can carry, just where do you propose you will be able to purchase or steal reloading components? Nowhere! You would be limited to what you already have and can carry, why would you think reloading equipment would be a practical thing to carry?

Do you think you will be carrying this equipment in your car/truck? Where will you get fuel? Who will keep the roads clear? Best case your vehicle will be usable 1-2 weeks.

A far better question is what is the realistic minimum caliber that you can get away with? Decide on this, the one gun in that caliber you feel would be sufficient, and simply load every case you think you could carry, or purchase as much ammunition in that caliber as practical, and stockpile it. In my case it would probably be my K-22 or Model 34 or 35, I have all three, and all the .22 Long Rifle I think would be practical.

Remember, in a SHTF scenario you are not going to do any practice or recreational shooting! Ammunition would be too valuable to use for anything except self-defense and foraging.
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My EDC can be either a semi-auto or a revolver, but in the event of a bug out scenario, I will probably resort to a 357, and rely on my Lyman 310 tool when ammo gets scarce.
You would be better off to invest a supply of factory ammo to take with you.
The space that reloading components, tooling, and accessories takes up would be more efficiently made use of by taking loaded ammo only.
In that kind of scenario, a few hundred rounds should last for a year or two. Remember, recreational shooting will be a no-no under those circumstances, as will protracted shooting encounters. The liklihood of someone surviving, say, a dozen shootouts are pretty slim, no matter how good you are, especially considering an almost certain lack of any medical care for wounds.
A .22 LR and/or .22 Magnum should be in EVERYONE's kit.
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This is a popular and continuing scenario, but also totally illogical. If placed in a true SHTF situation and having to "bug-out" with what you can carry, just where do you propose you will be able to purchase or steal reloading components? Nowhere! You would be limited to what you already have and can carry, why would you think reloading equipment would be a practical thing to carry?

Do you think you will be carrying this equipment in your car/truck? Where will you get fuel? Who will keep the roads clear? Best case your vehicle will be usable 1-2 weeks.

A far better question is what is the realistic minimum caliber that you can get away with? Decide on this, the one gun in that caliber you feel would be sufficient, and simply load every case you think you could carry, or purchase as much ammunition in that caliber as practical, and stockpile it. In my case it would probably be my K-22 or Model 34 or 35, I have all three, and all the .22 Long Rifle I think would be practical.

Remember, in a SHTF scenario you are not going to do any practice or recreational shooting! Ammunition would be too valuable to use for anything except self-defense and foraging.
Even foraging will not be what people expect.
Wild game and livestock will not generally be available at all, or unavailable after a month or so.
Foraging will consist of shooting and trapping stray dogs and rats.
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Foraging will consist of shooting and trapping stray neighbors.
Fixed that for you. I mean, come on, really. The foxes and such have conspired to ensure that there are no stray animals or such, just rabbits and squirrels and chipmunks. Not good eatin'! All bones!

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Lucky for me, I've already bugged out. Whatever happens, I'm where I'll make any final stand necessary.
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Well this one is easy.

I have a Dillon 650 all packed up with 3 caliber change overs, primers, powder and bullets all ready to go!!

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I keep my reloading outfit small. So if I had to dip out, I would just pop the two mounting bolts off and take the RockChucker with me. All my components are in a big tub and would be taken along with all my firearm stuff.

Of course this is just hypothetical. I have no idea what would actually happen if SHTF.
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Thread got kinda out of hand!. For a SHTF scenario, I'm gonna hunker down. I have mucho reloading supplies and "survival" stuff, and approx. 2,500 rounds of my tested and loaded ammo for my "survival" guns. We recently had a situation where we might have had to evacuate due to a forest fire, and reassessed my "bug out" needs. Unless there is a chance of my home being destroyed, I'm better off here than going up into the woods with the other 6,000 folks in my town....

Besides, I have 2,000 rounds for my AK. My AK "bug out" bag has 5 loaded magazines and about 1,000 rounds in boxes and I have a spam can of another 1K handy. I can get my armament in my truck in about 1 minute...

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...with the current state of international affairs and the uncertainty of the DRK, do you have a portable, back-up reloader ... in the event of an EMP or the need to relocate on the PDQ?
North Korea does not concern me any more than Iran, ISIL, Al Queda, Nicaragua, Black September, the Red Brigades or any of a thousand other wannabes.

In the event I have to evacuate because of a catastrophic event, it's my AR that is going with me, not my EDC, so I don't give any consideration to reloading for ammunition for it.

A portable reloading set-up presumes the availability of the components needed to reload and the undisturbed time to do it properly. I'd rather bug out with loaded ammunition than try to keep up with a bunch of components.

In the event of an EMP that affects your area, pausing to reload is going to be least of your worries. I do have a reloading press at my home and I have one at the farm, but I have no illusions that I am going to reload "on the run" from a post-apocalyptic landscape.
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...in the event of ... the need to relocate on the PDQ?
Have you developed a plan for relocating in the event of a catastrophic event? The fact you envision reloading "on the run" makes me think you really haven't.
  • Where are you going?
  • How are you going to get there?
  • What are you going to take with you?
  • Do you have cash (the ATMs will empty out quickly if they're working at all)?
  • Do you have something to barter with?
  • Do you already have it packaged?
  • Will it all fit in the car/truck?
  • Do you have enough fuel to get there?
  • Is there food and water at your destination or do you have to bring it?
  • Do you have adequate supplies of necessary medicines?
  • Antibiotics?
  • Antiseptics? It's a terrible thing to die of a minor cut that gets infected
  • Analgesics? It's even worse to do it without any pain relievers.
  • Antipyretics? It's a terrible thing to die or suffer permanent brain damage from an uncontrolled fever.
  • Antiemetics? It's a terrible thing to die from dehydration.
  • Will you have equipment to process and cook what you kill?
  • What about a change of clothing?
  • How about cleaning your clothing? Inadequate hygiene is more likely to kill you than an armed thug.
  • Are weapons, ammunition or components (remember primers are explosives) allowed at your destination?
  • In many catastrophes, the evacuation zones may be under martial law and Second Amendment protections will have little meaning - turn over your weapons or find someplace else to go (or simply get shot for not complying) - you can file suit in Federal Court later to get your gun back.
  • How long can you stay at your intended destination?
  • What is your alternate destination if you can't get to your intended destination?

I don't see a reloading press fitting into any of this.

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I would take a 15-22 with red dot and SR22 pistol and take as much CCI mini mag 22lr ammo as I can handle.Probably have 20,000 rds of mini mag and Tactical.

No reloading if I had to relocate but probably would stay put in surrounding I know well.

I lived in South Korea for 20 years and it's foreigners and outsiders that are in gloom and doom mode.

The South Korean people have been living with the north's antics for many decades and take it as business as usual since the world leaders thought it was a good idea to partition the Korean Peninsula after WWII.
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