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Old 03-13-2018, 04:08 PM
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I searched and it seems like the data wasn't widely provided online so I reached out to Hornady for information. Here's the official response I got back from them in the event that someone finds it useful:

"All of our commercial loads for our loaded ammunition are proprietary however, I will be happy to give you our load data for H110 powder using the 200 grain FTX bullet. That load data will start at 44.6 grains @ 1900 fps to a max. load of 52.7 grains @ 2250 fps and a C.O.L. of 2.275 and our test barrel is 8 3/8. We used a Hornady case and a Winchester Large Rifle primer for our load work up.

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Old 03-13-2018, 05:40 PM
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If you would like data for other powder or bullets just PM me.

You can search here and find several threads on load data for the 460.

A word of caution - most of the jacketed bullets used in 45ACP and similar cartridges will not perform well at 460 pressure and velocities. I have personally experienced jacket separation when first doing development work with 460.

Choose you bullets wisely.

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Old 03-13-2018, 05:55 PM
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Let me add to post#2 with regards to .45 ACP/.45 Colt jacketed bullets...

Forcing cone/barrel damage can result from trying to push them at .454/.460 speeds. The 200gr FTX is a capable slug, no worries there.
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I have been using the load data from the Hodgen website for the 460's and H110. I use only the Hornaday 200 gr FTX for 460 or their 240 gr XTP MAG.
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Old 03-13-2018, 08:56 PM
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I have been using the load data from the Hodgen website for the 460's and H110. I use only the Hornaday 200 gr FTX for 460 or their 240 gr XTP MAG.
I'm going to make up a batch of 240 Mag starting at 45 and work up to 47 and probably stop there unless I don't get accuracy. That leaves me a bit below max and hopefully will make my brass last a bit longer.
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Old 03-13-2018, 10:13 PM
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I have been using the load data from the Hodgen website for the 460's and H110. I use only the Hornaday 200 gr FTX for 460 or their 240 gr XTP MAG.
I only use the 240 XTP mags for hollow points myself. I also follow the Hodgen data. The XTP mags are excellent and easily obtainable.

Lil Gun and 2400 are my "go to" powders for .460

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"All of our commercial loads for our loaded ammunition are proprietary however, I will be happy to give you our load data for H110 powder using the 200 grain FTX bullet. That load data will start at 44.6 grains @ 1900 fps to a max. load of 52.7 grains @ 2250 fps...
That data can be found in Hornady's Reloading Manuals #8 - #10, along with other powders.

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I only use the 240 XTP mags for hollow points myself. I also follow the Hodgen data. The XTP mags are excellent and easily obtainable.

Lil Gun and 2400 are my "go to" powders for .460
Do you have a recipe you like using the 110 and the 240s? The range is tight and I won't exceed what Hornady sent me (48.5) and hope that I can get great velocity and consistency well below that. I won't take a shot at a hog more than 50 yards out as I'm still on iron sights and still debating some kind of red dot. I'm not a fan on pistols but to go 100 with my tired eyes will require it.
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Do you have a recipe you like using the 110 and the 240s? The range is tight and I won't exceed what Hornady sent me (48.5) and hope that I can get great velocity and consistency well below that. I won't take a shot at a hog more than 50 yards out as I'm still on iron sights and still debating some kind of red dot. I'm not a fan on pistols but to go 100 with my tired eyes will require it.
I found the H110 likes to run toward the max load. I would recommend something around 48 grains. Not sure if my experience will match what you are doing, as I have the 3.5" barrel on my 460.
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I am getting great results with 46 grains on both the FTX an XTP's, looking in the case it doesn't look like I could get much more in it.
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Old 03-16-2018, 06:43 PM
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50 gr of H110 for the 200 FTX. Best accuracy, and i'm pushing 2240 fps from my 12" XVR. No sense in loading higher as my accuracy falls off after 50 gr.
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Old 03-16-2018, 11:22 PM
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I found the H110 likes to run toward the max load. I would recommend something around 48 grains. Not sure if my experience will match what you are doing, as I have the 3.5" barrel on my 460.
Good Lord! How many rounds before you "call it a day"? I suspect I could shoot my 10.5" barrel for a couple hundred rounds or so and not have any major issues. It's like a 44 magnum.
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Old 03-16-2018, 11:50 PM
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Good Lord! How many rounds before you "call it a day"? I suspect I could shoot my 10.5" barrel for a couple hundred rounds or so and not have any major issues...
It is addicting isin't it.

At first I was shooting 100 to 150 rounds in a session - then I started shooting with a purpose and shoot 50 to 100 rounds typically as long as I am meeting the laid out objective - if it is not going per plan I pack it in for the day.

Adds up to about 6000 rounds a year- that's all the pocket book can stand.

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Old 03-17-2018, 09:38 PM
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Good Lord! How many rounds before you "call it a day"? I suspect I could shoot my 10.5" barrel for a couple hundred rounds or so and not have any major issues. It's like a 44 magnum.

Average day of shooting for fun is 20 rounds. That is enough fun. If I am working up a load, 5X5 for 25 rounds.
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My favourite bullet Hornadys 225gr FTX in my 460S&W.. Hornady says it

is good for 1800fps... l prefer 2400 over H110 in almost every instance..

2400 is just as accurate and much more flexible to use.. H110 will give

you maybe 5% more velocity.. Speer #12 has some reduced loads in

460S&W. They make fine bullets too. Don't forget CAST bullets in your

460 also.. l think you can get those up to almost 500gr.. Don't forget the

old 45-70 reloaders' tricks also when using smokeless powder.. A case filler

in the form of a card wad or a pinch of cotton or Dacron. Something to keep

the powder near the primer

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l prefer 2400 over H110 in almost every instance..

2400 is just as accurate and much more flexible to use.. H110 will give

you maybe 5% more velocity..
True, but NOTHING beats the grin factor of running a stout full bang load of H110 ! H110 is the king as far a a wicked fireball muzzle flash and a huge BOOM !
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My favourite bullet Hornadys 225gr FTX in my 460S&W.. Hornady says it

is good for 1800fps... l prefer 2400 over H110 in almost every instance..

2400 is just as accurate and much more flexible to use.. H110 will give

you maybe 5% more velocity.. Speer #12 has some reduced loads in

460S&W. They make fine bullets too. Don't forget CAST bullets in your

460 also.. l think you can get those up to almost 500gr.. Don't forget the

old 45-70 reloaders' tricks also when using smokeless powder.. A case filler

in the form of a card wad or a pinch of cotton or Dacron. Something to keep

the powder near the primer

I prefer the 300gr xtp mags myself
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Don't forget CAST bullets in your

460 also.. l think you can get those up to almost 500gr..
A couple of notes for those wanting to shoot cast bullets.
If you are going to shoot them at 460 Velocity use gas checks.
Make sure your mearsure your throat and size them appropriately.

In the X-framethe heaviest but will be just under 500 grains.
In BFR you can load bullets to 720 grains.

That said the point of diminishing gains make the 360 grain bullet the largest practical bullet and would consider 340 near perfect.

My preference with heavier bullets is 4227.

You will find powders from 2400, #9, Enforcer, N110, H110, Lil'Gun, 4227 all capable powders in the 460 for both jacketed and cast bullets.

I have not done any pressure work with 4100 but it should also be a good choice.

If you are looking for reduced loads use Trailboss or Tin Star.
Reduced loads with regular cast bullets is no issue (no gas checks).

I heavily suggest fast powders be avoided for reduced loads.

For moderate loading 5744 and 1680 are ok even though they a considered fast.

With any fast powder you run the risk of double and triple charges. I see several 460s and 500s every year with the cylinders and top staps destroyed- Tite Group or Unique causalities coupled with reloading error- sad so easily avoided.

The ES of large volume cases decrease as the case fill increases.
I personally recommend case fill of 80% or greater.

One reason I believe H110 is a good choose if you are only going to use one powder is 100% fill won't blow your 460 up.
100% case fill with 200 grain bullet won't exceed SAAMI pressure for this caliber. The heavier bullets will need just under 100% case fill to prevent sticky extraction.

Sticky extraction starts at about 57 KPSI. It is the best indication of your pressure with using true pressure tools.

Your primers will be flattened and this normal in 460.

You will find the 460 very forgiving with regards to grouping shoots of a wide range of loading.

For that reason there is little need to push the loads to the raged edge.

good luck and be safe
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Starting at 46gr H110 and will run to 48.0 (max listed is 48.5)
Hornady 240gr XTP Mag

And, yes, I'm OCD about my brass coming out of the tumbler looking all 24K-like. Yes it is unnecessary and is a waste of time. Yes, I'm going to do it anyway.
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Hornady 240gr XTP Mag

And, yes, I'm OCD about my brass coming out of the tumbler looking all 24K-like. Yes it is unnecessary and is a waste of time. Yes, I'm going to do it anyway.
I am the same way about my brass. I wet tumble until it looks like new.

Your round looks good, but I would recommend seating the bullet a little deeper and a stronger crimp. In my .460 I had some bullet creep with the crimp looking like what you have there.

Of course, your experience may be different. My .460 has stout recoil with the 3.5" barrel.
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I am the same way about my brass. I wet tumble until it looks like new.

Your round looks good, but I would recommend seating the bullet a little deeper and a stronger crimp. In my .460 I had some bullet creep with the crimp looking like what you have there.

Of course, your experience may be different. My .460 has stout recoil with the 3.5" barrel.
Thanks for the suggestions! I have the crimp die already 1/2 turn in from recommended but I agree that it is still not very tight-feeling. I have to put a hella crimp on my .45-70 lever gun as the rounds go in end-to-end and it is WAY harder to push down on the lever.
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This is a Great Thread for me, Thank You!

I reload and I am planning to purchase a S&W 460 pistol in the very near future for hunting PA Deer and out of state hogs.

I just need to decide on the barrel length that I want on my S&W 460 pistol purchase.

Thank You and Have a Great Day!

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Lil Gun and 2400 are my "go to" powders for .460
Because of the known issues from premature and excessive forcing cone erosion problems using Lil' Gun in revolvers, I don't use it in any revolver of mine anymore....especially the .460, where it has an exceptionally poor track record. While it works well for heavy for caliber bullets, I certainly wouldn't consider it for the 200 grainers. BTJM.

I myself prefer h110/W296 or IMR4227 for full blown .460 loads. Never had much luck with 2400 outta my 10.5 P.C. Compensated Hunter. I too prefer the 300 gr XTP-MAGS, but shoot the 240s at paper because they're cheaper. While the 200 FTX perform well on paper, I would not consider them an appropriate hunting bullet for anything larger than song-dogs.
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This is a Great Thread for me, Thank You!

I reload and I am planning to purchase a S&W 460 pistol in the very near future for hunting PA Deer and out of state hogs.

I just need to decide on the barrel length that I want on my S&W 460 pistol purchase.

Thank You and Have a Great Day!

Dane
I really wanted the 7.5" barrel performance center but I found a great deal on a performance center 10.5" barrel. I will say that I'm happy with the long barrel as the weight plus the compensator reduce recoil rather dramatically, it's a lot to hold up and shoot off hand for more than a few rounds unless you have popeye arms. If you think you'll do more bench or "nook of tree" type shooting than off hand, you might consider the longer barrel. Otherwise go with the shorter version (but not the 4-6" as muzzle flip is huge).
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