Smith & Wesson Forum

Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > Ammunition-Gunsmithing > Reloading
o

Notices

Reloading All Reloading Topics Go Here


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-28-2018, 09:44 PM
Harbinger_of_lead Harbinger_of_lead is offline
Member
VV N340 - .44 Mag VV N340 - .44 Mag VV N340 - .44 Mag VV N340 - .44 Mag VV N340 - .44 Mag  
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Colorado
Posts: 97
Likes: 32
Liked 85 Times in 42 Posts
Default VV N340 - .44 Mag

Loaded some VV N340 240gr. JSP. I will provide a range report with velocities as soon as I get some time at the range.

In the meantime, was wondering people's thoughts about N340 in this application. This is my first time loading it.

Thanks
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-28-2018, 10:06 PM
mike campbell mike campbell is offline
Member
VV N340 - .44 Mag VV N340 - .44 Mag VV N340 - .44 Mag VV N340 - .44 Mag VV N340 - .44 Mag  
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 531
Likes: 90
Liked 1,518 Times in 365 Posts
Default

Haven't tried it, but I'll be curious to hear you results. What's the goal/application?
In terms of maximum velocities, VhitaVuori's data rates it number 5 out of their 6 suggested powders.

N310 is a first place accuracy contender in one of my 44 Spl's with a Zero 240JSP.

In the 45ACP, the N310 beat every other powder I tried (including Bullseye, WST, 231) with a 185JHP. I settled on a load similar to the one the USMC team uses. I've been testing with a Ransom Rest for the last month. I'm seeing 10-shot, 2" groups @ 50 yards from my bone-stock, off the shelf Kimber 1911.

Next up, I have some N320 I plan to wring out in a Colt Gold Cup 9mm.
__________________
Carry.."hope" isn't a strategy

Last edited by mike campbell; 03-28-2018 at 10:16 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-29-2018, 07:58 AM
Confederate Tyrant's Avatar
Confederate Tyrant Confederate Tyrant is offline
Member
VV N340 - .44 Mag VV N340 - .44 Mag VV N340 - .44 Mag VV N340 - .44 Mag VV N340 - .44 Mag  
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 65
Likes: 3
Liked 28 Times in 19 Posts
Default

I've used N340 with the 200gr Gold Dots, 240gr XTP, and 250gr Keith bullets. Most of them were loads between .44 Special and .44 Magnum, but they were clean burning, pleasant to shoot, and accurate.
__________________
Authorized AMSOIL Dealer
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #4  
Old 03-29-2018, 08:34 AM
Harbinger_of_lead Harbinger_of_lead is offline
Member
VV N340 - .44 Mag VV N340 - .44 Mag VV N340 - .44 Mag VV N340 - .44 Mag VV N340 - .44 Mag  
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Colorado
Posts: 97
Likes: 32
Liked 85 Times in 42 Posts
Default

I don't have very many goals with this powder, I am mostly interested in the learning experience. I picked up the powder a while back mainly to experience different manufacturer's products. So far I have been pleased with how well it meters. The bulk also seems to fill the case on the 44 mag nicely.


That being said, this particular application is a load for a 629 classic my father carries in his RV. He wanted the JSP bullet while hiking. I recommended my favorite 300gr xtp over 2400 for protection use, but you can't tell him anything.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-29-2018, 02:53 PM
Calliope Calliope is offline
Member
VV N340 - .44 Mag VV N340 - .44 Mag VV N340 - .44 Mag VV N340 - .44 Mag VV N340 - .44 Mag  
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: On the Mississippi.
Posts: 380
Likes: 117
Liked 157 Times in 94 Posts
Default

I use N340 as a substitute for Unique in 45 auto and 357. Same speed, but it meters much better, burns cleaner.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-29-2018, 04:15 PM
Kurusu's Avatar
Kurusu Kurusu is offline
Absent Comrade
VV N340 - .44 Mag VV N340 - .44 Mag VV N340 - .44 Mag VV N340 - .44 Mag VV N340 - .44 Mag  
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Portugal
Posts: 5,538
Likes: 39,612
Liked 18,061 Times in 4,567 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Harbinger_of_lead View Post
Loaded some VV N340 240gr. JSP. I will provide a range report with velocities as soon as I get some time at the range.

In the meantime, was wondering people's thoughts about N340 in this application. This is my first time loading it.

Thanks
Don't like it (for .44 Mag only). My only .44 Magnum is a 92 Rossi rifle. I couldn't get any accuracy using N 340. When I got hold of some N 110 the tuned changed to cloverleaf groups at 50 meters.

Edit.
Like it in .45 ACP; .45 Colt; .44WCF; .38S PL and 9mm Luger.
__________________
Expect the unexpected

Last edited by Kurusu; 03-29-2018 at 04:18 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-29-2018, 04:39 PM
S&WIowegan S&WIowegan is offline
Member
VV N340 - .44 Mag VV N340 - .44 Mag VV N340 - .44 Mag VV N340 - .44 Mag VV N340 - .44 Mag  
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Iowa
Posts: 4,106
Likes: 14,444
Liked 3,763 Times in 1,784 Posts
Smile

I've been loading various Vihta Vouri powders for about 25 yrs. when they first showed up in the US. They are great powders; meter well, burn clean and don't lose power in cold temperatures.

I use everything from N310 to N110. N340 is usable in 44 mag but pretty fast for magnum so be careful. Viht N110 is much better for magnum pistol cartridges.

Good luck.
__________________
Bob.
SWCA 1821

Last edited by S&WIowegan; 03-29-2018 at 04:56 PM.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #8  
Old 03-31-2018, 02:09 AM
bluetopper's Avatar
bluetopper bluetopper is offline
Member
VV N340 - .44 Mag VV N340 - .44 Mag VV N340 - .44 Mag VV N340 - .44 Mag VV N340 - .44 Mag  
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Northeast TX
Posts: 1,268
Likes: 614
Liked 987 Times in 409 Posts
Default

8.5gr of N340 behind a cast 240gr bullet gave me a very consistent velocity of 900fps and very good accuracy out of my 3" barreled model 29. I highly recommend. I just chronoed these a couple weeks ago.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #9  
Old 03-31-2018, 06:06 PM
Harbinger_of_lead Harbinger_of_lead is offline
Member
VV N340 - .44 Mag VV N340 - .44 Mag VV N340 - .44 Mag VV N340 - .44 Mag VV N340 - .44 Mag  
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Colorado
Posts: 97
Likes: 32
Liked 85 Times in 42 Posts
Default Data from range

I made it to the range today to test out the N340 loads. Excellent shooters, with a fairly stout recoil. Very accurate in my 629 Classic 5.5", ported. Clean and very consistent velocities.

Attached is the compiled report data from 5 strings of 10 shots. The loads were 10.3; 10.5; 10.7; 11.0; 11.2

With standard deviations in the 13 fps range, I am very excited for the potential for this powder.

Average Velocity of 1108; 1121; 1133; 1148; 1167, which is nice and linear.

Powder charges fill the case nicely around the 11 gr. mark. Brass was just starting to stick at the max charge tested, but not to the point that it would prevent use of that charge.

All in all, it looks to me that N340 is a happy camper in the .44 Mag. Your mileage may vary.
Attached Files
File Type: pdf 03 31 2018 Compiled Report.pdf (39.2 KB, 28 views)
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #10  
Old 04-03-2018, 02:27 AM
jmclfrsh's Avatar
jmclfrsh jmclfrsh is offline
Member
VV N340 - .44 Mag VV N340 - .44 Mag VV N340 - .44 Mag VV N340 - .44 Mag VV N340 - .44 Mag  
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Central Ohio
Posts: 261
Likes: 27
Liked 338 Times in 94 Posts
Default

^ What program did you utilize to generate this report, or was it all done by hand?

Seems too detailed to be done by hand. Thanks for the info!
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 04-03-2018, 03:10 PM
Joe4d Joe4d is offline
Member
VV N340 - .44 Mag VV N340 - .44 Mag VV N340 - .44 Mag VV N340 - .44 Mag VV N340 - .44 Mag  
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Virginia
Posts: 273
Likes: 42
Liked 165 Times in 94 Posts
Default

Protection from what ? mouses or mooses ?
this is a kinda fast powder. Can do alot better. You also didnt mention your barrel length.
If I was loading for a 2.5" anti people load,, would be pretty good.
Basically keep the recoil down and atay in lower velocity. Although for that Id rather carry a 45 acp and have an easier to shoot package with less recoil and more rounds.
Honestly If I am gonna handicap myself with the short comings of a revolver, I want the advantages of a revolver. Big chunks of lead at high velocity.
You aint doing that with 340... move up to a slower powder
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #12  
Old 04-03-2018, 03:14 PM
Joe4d Joe4d is offline
Member
VV N340 - .44 Mag VV N340 - .44 Mag VV N340 - .44 Mag VV N340 - .44 Mag VV N340 - .44 Mag  
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Virginia
Posts: 273
Likes: 42
Liked 165 Times in 94 Posts
Default

Any way dont get me wrong, love a 44 with a 240 bullet.. Depends on barrel though,, but I a going CFE to H110 depending on barrel length
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 04-03-2018, 08:19 PM
Harbinger_of_lead Harbinger_of_lead is offline
Member
VV N340 - .44 Mag VV N340 - .44 Mag VV N340 - .44 Mag VV N340 - .44 Mag VV N340 - .44 Mag  
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Colorado
Posts: 97
Likes: 32
Liked 85 Times in 42 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jmclfrsh View Post
^ What program did you utilize to generate this report, or was it all done by hand?

Seems too detailed to be done by hand. Thanks for the info!
That is the output report from the Lab Radar.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 04-03-2018, 08:51 PM
Harbinger_of_lead Harbinger_of_lead is offline
Member
VV N340 - .44 Mag VV N340 - .44 Mag VV N340 - .44 Mag VV N340 - .44 Mag VV N340 - .44 Mag  
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Colorado
Posts: 97
Likes: 32
Liked 85 Times in 42 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe4d View Post
Protection from what ? mouses or mooses ?
this is a kinda fast powder. Can do alot better. You also didnt mention your barrel length.
If I was loading for a 2.5" anti people load,, would be pretty good.
Basically keep the recoil down and atay in lower velocity. Although for that Id rather carry a 45 acp and have an easier to shoot package with less recoil and more rounds.
Honestly If I am gonna handicap myself with the short comings of a revolver, I want the advantages of a revolver. Big chunks of lead at high velocity.
You aint doing that with 340... move up to a slower powder
My normal "go to" for 44 mag is a 300 gr xtp pushed by 2400. This load is a result of wanting to try out different combinations. I don't think 1150 fps for a 240gr bullet is all that shabby.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Range report Badman 180 gr. and VV N340 ageingstudent Reloading 3 10-18-2014 12:00 PM
45 acp and VV N340 ?? luv2shoot Reloading 1 01-21-2014 05:07 PM
38spl/44spl with vv n340 ? jibjab Reloading 7 04-17-2012 01:33 AM
Any experience with Vit N340 in a 357? Kaumheimer Reloading 3 09-30-2010 10:21 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:29 PM.


Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)