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Old 04-08-2018, 08:20 AM
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Gainesville Ga or Florida??

FYI, Trail Boss is not 16 oz or 1 lb, it is 9 oz. So you get less and use more of it. It has some uses but as a general reloading powder not real economical. It smells like Cowboy farts also.

You bought new 38 special brass?? Should have said something I and others have boatloads of once fired stuff.
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I shoulda been more specific - Gainesville, VA - in the Manassas area. I hear you on the Trail Boss - but the new bottle I checked seemed to be full so by-volume it should load a lot of rounds. I have been looking for clean once-fired .38 brass but haven't had much luck. Summer is coming up and it's cool in my basement & too hot to go out and walk or do yardwork in the middle of the day - so lotsa time to do some loading.

Edited to add - I thought I'd better stop bumping this post with my comments! Scales are also reasonable on A-zon - I will have one after SS rolls in next week. I made up six test rounds with the new Berry's plated bullets. Tickled to find that they have a nice bevel on them and I only had to very slightly bell the cases. Load is 5.6-ish (still no scale ) of PP. Just for giggles - I double-charged a couple of the cases ... and emptied them . Even with a flashlight, there isn't an immediate and easily noticeable diff in the .38 case between a single and a double-charge. And that was one of the reasons I re-started my revolver loading with .38SC. Investigation continues (I have lotsa time on weekends) but I'm leaning toward going back to Unique because it's VMD is .1092 - but Trail Boss is .2172!! If I was made out of money I guess I'd just go buy the over-priced plinkin' ammo at Cabela's like everyone else.

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You might also want to keep an eye on GB for range brass. .38 special and .357 cases usually bring a premium compared to 9mm or the like but you can find some pretty good prices sometimes. Of course the best deals will come along when you're broke but that's just the way of life I suppose. When Cabela's first started carrying the Sellier & Bellot primers they had them on sale for $14.99 for a brick of 1000. Luckily for me I was there at the right time and stocked up on them. I see their prices have gone up since then almost matching the CCI primers. Try to find someone else in your area that reloads. If you place your orders together it helps to spread out the shipping and hazardous materials fees. I should have mentioned this earlier but, also keep an eye on out own Accessories and Misc section of the forum. I've scored some great prices on there before. Guys know what it's worth but often like to keep a realistic price for other members.

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Old 04-08-2018, 11:43 AM
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The Lee Safety Scale you can get new or used starting around $18 for a refurbished one. New ones run a few dollars more. A little slow, but they work.

I have a Frankford Arsenal digital that runs around $30 that does a super job.
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From everything I've heard regarding the Lee Safety scale rwsmith's assessment is pretty right on. And honestly for all the talk regarding different powders and their relative safety and ability to fill the case, it's a lot like discussing which streets are safest to cross with our eyes closed. Please buy a scale. Even the little Lee scale can keep you safe and allow you to use the most efficient and cost effective powders for your task. With a new price between 25 and 30 bucks it is a bargain.

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This continues to be a great read - Thanks Gents! I made it out to Cabela's in Gainesville yesterday. They had a surprisingly large selection of powders - although some cans were empty and marked 'Display'. Trail Boss was the cheapest at $17, 800x, Universal and HS-6 were around $22. None of the Dots or 2400. I almost bought the Trail Boss ... until I saw that I could get a hundred SIG .38 cases for the same price. And, I found Berry's plated 125-g's there for the same price as Midway without paying prolly $6 or $7 for shipping. I still had to pay just shy of $60 to get out of there so the powder will have to wait until next month ... . Unsolicited advice for anyone thinking about retiring - don't! I'm poor as a church mouse ... lotsa time on my hands to reload but the components are killing me. Last but not leasty, I've had a (used) 3-in .38 GP-100 for a couple of years that I've never fired. I'm going to run the 6.9-g PP loads thru it this week. The 686P is much easier to clean, since I can pull the cylinder, but there's no sense in letting the Ruger sit unfired all by itself.
Iím 60 and will probably be working until Iím in the dirt. Bullseye and 231 are my most used powders for 38 special. Some will say Bullseye is too dirty but itís gunpowder. I just keep a rag damp with Ballistol and give my revolvers a wipe down after a hundred or so rounds. 231 is a bit cleaner but Bullseye is still the most accurate with 148 lead wadcutters out of my 14-3.
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Iím 60 and will probably be working until Iím in the dirt. Bullseye and 231 are my most used powders for 38 special. Some will say Bullseye is too dirty but itís gunpowder. I just keep a rag damp with Ballistol and give my revolvers a wipe down after a hundred or so rounds. 231 is a bit cleaner but Bullseye is still the most accurate with 148 lead wadcutters out of my 14-3.
Yeah, they all go 'bang' and push a dense pellet out of the muzzle. Wipe off 'dirt' is not any kind of big deal. Using 2400 my gun turns a golden yellow like pollen, but it wipes right off. Hardly a consideration compared to good shooting.
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1sailor:SB primers vary quite a bit dimension wise.If used in a Dillon Square Deal B,this might cause some problems;at least the LPP.I've experienced it and one of my friends also did for the same reason.If used in a ss press then no problem.But don't be surprised if you feel the seating pressure is not the same from one another.
Rule 3:about Trail Boss,I like your appreciation about its smell(old cowboy's fart).On an earlier post I wrote it smells like''chicken manure''.While I'm not game at scientifically measuring the difference between your and my description,I guess our opinion about its smell pretty well matches!
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It might be that the issue with S&B primers is confined to progressive presses. I have fewer than 3000 of their primers left. That means I've loaded over 7000 of them. Other than a single failure to fire I haven't seen any other problems. I have had a lot of problems with Winchester primers though. I often had issues with them not seating properly without some real force. I never buy Winchester anymore. I have some left but would only use them is nothing else were available to me. Not fond of their brass in .357 either.
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I got in a habit 40 years ago of never putting powder in a case without turning it upside down first. I actually keep my primed cases in my loading block upside down and only turn them over when they are charged. That being said I still look in the loading block of charged cases with a flash light before seating the bullets. Don't like to take chances!
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