I'm guessing early/mid 80's. Found this while cleaning out the folks basement. Also found a 1lb two tone blue can of Hercules Blue Dot. Heck, I'm gonna use them!

Should i use these for 38 special or 357 magnum? I can load either or, as I have both a 686 and a 4" model 10. How 'bout some old school recipes?

It is always nice when you stumble on something you forgot that you owned.

The projectiles look great, use them where you see fit

Personally I would load them over a nice charge of H110 for my 357 Magnum Desert Eagle. It really loves the 158s

I first got into reloading in the late 80's. My first real revolver was a 6" 686. I reloaded for it but I moved out of the folks home in '89 so this stuff is at least from that time period. H110 is hot stuff. For 158 gr Hornady bullets I used 11.9 gr H110 and that was getting on the warm side. I'll have to get my Hornady 9th edition out double check but I'm certain 11.9gr H110 is somewhere in the middle. I can do that.

11.9 is WAY too light for a 357 Magnum using the 158s.

I am not where my notes are, but that should be somewhere between 16 and 17 grains.

Noooo, I screwed up when I typed that. i was thinking Blue Dot but no, for H110 I load 13.9 grs. So what I've done was I loaded 50 rounds as:

357 magnum (hornady 9th edition)

13.9gr H110 (EST. 1100 fps)
Hornady 158gr JSP
COL 1.590
CCI 550 small pistol magnum primer

then I loaded up 50 rounds of:

38 special +P (straight out of Hornady 9th edition)

6.0gr power pistol (EST. 850 fps)
158gr Hornady JSP
COL 1.450"
CCI 500 standard small pistol primer

I just looked on the Hodgdon site colt saa, and they show a load of 15.0-16.7 grains for a 158 XTP, which should be very comparable to the older Hornady bullet.

I can remember shooting a bunch of those back in the day. From what I remember they were some good bullets.

I'm quite sure those are max loads for H110. Normally I load my 357 magnum in the middle ranges. The only time I load up near max is when I'm going after feral hogs here in south texas.

14.8 gr. of 2400 is about max load for that bullet.

Don't run them slow. Jacket separation could be an issue with older jacketed bullets. Those have some jacket around the ogive so probably not a concern here.

Suitable for heavy loads in both .38 and .357. I use coated bullets more nowadays and JHP ammo is more expensive. I hope you can find a good use for them.

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Those bullets are fine, rw. It's the half jacket bullets like Speer (I think) used to make that could have jacket separation. The jacket didn't come up around the ogive like that Hornady bullet has. And if you want to run some jacketed bullets at a good price, check out the Zero bullets at Roze Distribution. I like them a lot and are a good price for a jacketed bullet.