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Old 07-02-2018, 08:06 PM
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Nice Buffalo Ruggy!
Saw that looking for 3.5" load data and reports.

1. Hornady #9152 ammo...... comments?

2. Spoke with Penn Bullets about my needs for a low velocity lighter bullet, 255gr RNFPBB HC for range use with Trailboss... but in a HC as well....for higher velocities.

3. As well as a heavier "woods/mountain carry bullet,
350gr TCBB with H110.

I've been using 4198 mainly in my 458WM #1 Rifle,
16.5" barrel, as well as 223/5.56 rounds.
BE, Unique for handguns and added N320 some years ago....nice in 380acp.

Thoughts?
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Old 07-03-2018, 12:37 PM
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3. As well as a heavier "woods/mountain carry bullet,
350gr TCBB with H110.
With regards to bullets heavier than 300 grains I would suggest 4227, when you start get this heavy it is not about max velocity.

With the 350gr I would start with 4198 even in your barrel length, if it to dirty then go 4227.

I use 4198 with good results above 340 grain with my 460s though dont recall if I shoot any through the shorter barrels.

I will tell you the heavier bullets do have substantially more muzzle flip than lighter bullets compared out of shorter barrels.

For lead I like Beartooth bullets stuff- consistant

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With regards to bullets heavier than 300 grains I would suggest 4227, when you start get this heavy it is not about max velocity.

With the 350gr I would start with 4198 even in your barrel length, if it to dirty then go 4227.

I use 4198 with good results above 340 grain with my 460s though dont recall if I shoot any through the shorter barrels.

I will tell you the heavier bullets do have substantially more muzzle flip than lighter bullets compared out of shorter barrels.

For lead I like Beartooth bullets stuff- consistant

be safe
Ruggy
Bought the H110 to load some higher velocity Blackhawk 45LC loads and because my son wanted the famed “44” 4” 629 despite being born into a “45” family...... I bought 44 dies..... but never loaded anything as their house sold quickly and they’re in the Rockies now..... Lous PS only had 500s that day so a 460 sale turned into a 44 sale.
He and a Marine GS buddy, their wives fixed broken animals at the same hospital while he was TDY in South Florida, got some productive rangetime in at 300yds on in at Homestead.
Hunting/hiking on land is new to them as we hunt with fishing rods down here..... although he KNOWS how bad things can get hunting below the Oceans surface!!!



I’ll pickup some 4227 as I know it will have uses although what transpires between Smith and I about my inoperable 3.5” has not been determined.


Read that A#7 and #9 are used as well.
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Old 07-04-2018, 02:13 AM
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is there more to this thread? am i missing something?
Was hoping you all would bring in the missing pieces to loading the 3.5” 460..... then nothing would be missing for those that follow and I can change my name to “oneraggedhole”.

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Was hoping you all would bring in the missing pieces to loading the 3.5” 460..... then nothing would be missing for those that follow and I can change my name to “oneraggedhole”.

Sorry about that - I was thrown off by the first couple of lines in post #1 - they implied some context from another chat/post maybe?

Anyways - I took the "twins" (460S&W XVR (scoped), 500 S&W and the red-headed step-child (DE)) out today. Pic attached.
I am a firm advocate of that you need to reload if you want to do the big bores (44Mag and up)justice.

I have shot 80 to 100 Hornady #9152 - in my 460 XVR. No issues at all. Now, I will say that I purchased my XVR 7 or 8 years ago. My 500 is only couple of years old. I do feel the quality of the 500 is not quite on par with the 460. Meaning, I have had to tighten screws several times on the 500 - never on the 460. And, I have pushed some warm-hot loads through the 460. Not so much heat with the 500.
The finish on the 460 is better than the 500.

Powders:
I like H110 in the 460 under 240gr XTP/MAGs. I prefer the 240gr over the 300 XTP/MAG.
In the 500 I like Sierra 350gr JHP &400gr JSP over AA#9.
The DE in 50AE - 300gr, H110 is best, in 44 Mag 300gr, AA#9 works best. The DE is finicky at best, these powders work best for me.

I never shoot 454 Casull or 45 Colt out of my XVR, full house 460s will have an extraction issue with build up from shorter cartridges. Maybe find a powder than does not require a full (or close to full) case capacity and go from there. And, reload.

Good luck. They are awesome firearms.
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The 460 3.5” has issues and Smith said return it and don’t use #9152 again so I might not keep the 3.5”.... link below.
I know we’ll have at least one 460 Smith... 5” vs 8.38” ???

When the 500 came out I hoped for a 45 caliber and I finally have the need and time.
I have a box of the 300xtp mags.... just need a working gun.
Will get some leads as discussed in the two threads.
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460 Revolver Assistance Please!

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The 460 3.5” has issues and Smith said return it and don’t use #9152 again so I might not keep the 3.5”.... link below.
I know we’ll have at least one 460 Smith... 5” vs 8.38” ???

When the 500 came out I hoped for a 45 caliber and I finally have the need and time.
I have a box of the 300xtp mags.... just need a working gun.
Will get some leads as discussed in the two threads.
Thanks

460 Revolver Assistance Please!
I doubt the specific bullets are your issue. You are doing the right thing sending it back to S&W. Seemingly even PC quality is degrading these days. Sad news indeed.

Both the 460 and 500 can really open up with longer barrels = more velocity.

What is it exactly you want to do with your 460?
Your other link talks about:
"excessive complaining from others?" -what does that mean?
"Will post pictures of the “XVR” that is on the way." - where is the XVR?
"I’m looking forward to making some pearl target stocks for it and call it “General Patton”"

Where are you located? Are you in the US? Where do you find the “” on your keyboard? Those are not US standard characters - yet you are in So. FL?


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