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Old 08-09-2018, 10:05 PM
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I've been shooting the Zero 158 grain JSP and JHP in .357 diameter for years and like them. I can't say how they hunt since I just kill paper nowadays, but their bullets shoot plenty accurate enough for me. I've also started loading their 9MM 147 grain JHP bullets but I really haven't put enough of them downrange to have a good feel for them on accuracy. They seem accurate enough so far though and no problems with them feeding through my Beretta M9 or P4X Storm subcompact.
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Old 08-10-2018, 12:22 AM
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OK, thanks, I'll order a bunch. Any thoughts on their other flavors like 45 ACP, 10mm, .357 or 9mm?
I use their 185gr JHPs & 230gr JHPs in my 45s. Even use the 230grs in reduced 460Mag loads.

I use their 165gr JHP exclusively in my 40xxs & 10xxs pistols.

I tried their 125gr JHPS (& they shot great) but I like heavy bullets in my 357s so I use their 158gr JHPs.

Don't shoot enough 9mm to make it worth trying theirs.

FYI: You can order (500) 357s and (500) 44s & they'll give you (1000) pricing & free shipping.

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I need to use my 460 snubby (MagNaPorted) to make rings.

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Old 08-10-2018, 09:20 AM
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Why complicate things with two different case lengths requiring die adjustments unless you have a 44 special gun to load for too? Unless you just happen to have a pile of 44 special brass, which I doubt. Besides, when loading for my 66 or 686 I use only magnum brass because I have enough of it, even for light loads. Although I get that 38 brass is a lot more plentiful, in which case shoot what you got. Plus, after a long session of shooting lead from special cases you can get a ring built up that will make the magnum rounds tight. Shoot what you got but don't create issues you don't already have.
I do hate die adjustments. For me it's a pain in the butt because it seems to take me forever to get them exactly the way I want them. You're point is well taken. Got to make up my mind.
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Old 08-10-2018, 12:55 PM
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I just took a picture of the various Zero brand bullets I reload and labeled them for you. From left to right is the 9MM 147 grain JHP bullet, the .357 dia 158 grain soft point, the .357 dia 158 grain JHP, the .431 dia 240 grain soft point and the .451 dia 230 grain full metal jacket.


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Old 08-10-2018, 03:13 PM
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Hey, thanks a bunch.
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Old 08-10-2018, 03:19 PM
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Well, I just now ordered a 2K bullet salad mix from Roz so I can try out their Zero brand in everything including 9mm Luger/corto. 38/357, 10mm, 44, and 45ACP. Plus, I should get to burn up some H110 but probably still a bunch or 231 too. I've been using 231 for so long I doubt I can stop. I think my RL450 is still set up for 9s. Unfortunately it still has the manual powder dispenser unlike the RL550. I'll have to try and remember that rhythm again.

PS: Don't think I'm quitting lead. Never, I love light lead loads and hot gas checked lead loads.

PS#2: Hmmm! If you want to powder coat but are doing gas checks, you would still have to run it through the lube sizer to seat the check, right? Run it through dry and then powder coat or no need for gas checks with powder coating? Say for hot loads for my Ruger 44 carbine and SBH or Marlin carbines 44/45/70 or even the Rossi 357 carbine?

PS#3: rant Why the heck doesn't Henry make a light weight 357 carbine. The Rossi is just because I couldn't find a good light 357 carbine in anything under collector safe queen prices. The Henry is too much gun for a 357. /rant

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Old 08-11-2018, 01:37 PM
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Finally got my .44 conversion kit in yesterday from Dillon. I must say they get on the stick out there. I got it in three days. So now all I need is some bullets from Oregon Trail. I've never ordered from them. Never loaded any of their bullets. You have to make decisions one way of the other. There's so many choices. I appreciate everyone's input on helping me get started in the .44 world. I decided to go with Oregon Trail 200gr RNFP. Have no idea what they'll shoot like. Also had 300-400 .44spl brass laying around from a long time ago so I'm gonna jump on the .44spl wagon to get my feet wet and then load some .44mag which I don't have hardly any brass for. So today, I've got all the dies in place, powder charge adjusted, etc. and am just waiting on the bullets. Kind of exciting to me.
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Old 08-11-2018, 01:53 PM
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I much prefer SNS, Bayou bullets, or Missouri bullets with the new Hi-tek coating.
cleaner, no leading, less mess on the gun and dillon dies

200gr RNFP or 240gr SWC are great choices
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Old 08-11-2018, 03:24 PM
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I used to use a lube that isn't made any more. I don't recall the name off hand. It smelled good, was a bit messy and very smokey. I think it was a high percentage bees wax. It left my gun nasty filthy after a long session. The good part was my gun pretty much just wiped clean with a rag. Nothing really got stuck on to the point of requiring scrubbing. That was using straight wheel weights. Probably not good in doors but I was quite happy with it outdoors which was where I shot 99% of the time. I'm not as thrilled with the hard wax lube most of the commercial bullet makers use although they make for less messy loading. My guns look cleaner after a session but it doesn't clean up as easily.

If the new bullet coatings work well they're probably the way to go now days.
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Old 08-11-2018, 05:08 PM
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I use to lube with Alox. I no longer have my sizer/lube press, traded it about 10 years ago. I now shoot only jacketed. I bought so many boxes years ago, I doubt I would ever have to buy more {other than the desire to try some of the new additions like Speer Gold Dot's}
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If the new bullet coatings work well they're probably the way to go now days.
So far I've only tried them with 9mm, but they produced zero smoke, whereas plain lead generated a small amount in that cartridge. Nothing like the .44 clouds, though.

The only thing I noticed was the chemical smell often noted. But I didn't find it remotely objectionable or overpowering--for some reason it reminded me of shooting older ammo at an indoor range many years ago. It dissipated in seconds even on a warm, very humid evening with no wind.

I'm definitely going to switch to coated in .44. I might try it out in .45 as well, but I'll probably stick to plain in .38.
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Anybody else here shooting Oregon Trail bullets? Your thoughts on them if you are. Would love to have your input!
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I've been very happy with there 44 240 grain SWC bullets.
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I've been very happy with there 44 240 grain SWC bullets.
Thanks for the comeback. I finally got 'operational', so to speak, yesterday, and got a few rounds off the press. 200gr Oregon Trail. Dying to get to the range today but other things hanging fire so it might be later in the week.
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To those that haven't tried powder coated bullets , you need to give them a try . I , after yrs of " size and lube " my own cast bullets decided to try PC'ing my own . I have had excellent results so far . I have shot them from " mild to wild " with the same results . Regards, Paul
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Don't know if I'll ever get into casting my own bullets but that process sounds interesting.
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Tomorrow, range, 629-4, 200gr Oregon Trail RNFP, 5.3gr Win231, taking the chronograph. Will post pcs and results. Wish me luck.
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dwpmusic , are those loaded in a " special " case or " magnum " ?
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