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Old 08-10-2018, 12:21 PM
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Loaded the following rounds:

1. 3.1 grs Bullseye w/ 240 grain Magtex LSWC

2. 4.1 grs Bullseye w/ 240 grain cast LSWC

3. 5.0 grs Bullseye w/ 240 grain cast LSWC


Fired from a Charter Arms Bulldog .44 spl w/ 3" barrel (old model with exposed ejector rod.)


most bullets "Key Holed". accuracy "SO-SO". best accuracy was 5.0 grain bullseye.


Targets at 7, 15, and 25 yards.


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try Unique-a 240 grain LSWC over 6 1/2 - 7 or so grains of Unique is what has worked for me.
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Old 08-10-2018, 12:26 PM
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Define "accuracy."
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Slug and mic' the throats and bore. Hopefully, the throats are larger by a mil or two and your bullets are at least the diameter of the throats.
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Define "accuracy."
1. at 7 yards all hits in the head/face area

2. at 15 yards all hits in the chest/heart/lung area

3. at 25 yards all hits in the chest/abdomen area
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Since the fast burning Bullseye is not doing it..........
you might try a slower burning powder like Green Dot or Unique
and see if the bullets shot any better, even Universal Clays if you have any.

I just hate it when those darn bullet go sideways, through my targets !!!
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My older 29-2 and 29-5 do best with
5.1 gr Bullseye, 200 gr throat matched hard cast bullet, CCI 300 primer

my 29-6s do best with
8.4gr HS-6 and a matched 210 gr Sierra JHC, CCI 350 mag primer
they shoot into 1 exact hole at 25 yards

I do not use Unique as it will not meter for my machines.
I have almost a full pound left I use as BBQ starter.

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With lead bullets its always proper fit. Slug/measure your cyl throats, then the bore. You want 0.001" larger than bore. If the cyl throats are small, wont matter wphat size bullet, it will swage down & accuracy suffer.
Measure your bullets, I wouldnt go smaller than 0.430", 0.431" better. How hard is the alloy? A harder bullet that is slightly undersize will skid. If it is soft enough, Enough pressure behind it, The base can bump up a bit to grab rifling.
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Stating not only what powder was used, what bullet would be helpful.

Home cast?
Store bought?
Bullet diameter?
BHN?

More than most likely you have 2 different things (both bad) going on with your "lswc"'s.

I tend to use lighter bullets in the bulldog. Better poa/poi from 7yds to 25yds.
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5 grains of Bullseye will work just fine. Beg, borrow or trade for a handful of as many different 200 - 240 grain bullets as you can to try. Ten rounds of each recipe at 15 yds from a seated rest in the same session will give you a winner.
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Is this out of a Charter Arms Bulldog ?



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try Unique-a 240 grain LSWC over 6 1/2 - 7 or so grains of Unique is what has worked for me.
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44 Special 240 LSWC with Bullseye, the sweet spot for me was 5.2 grains.
LSWC GR 240 BULLSEYE GR 5.2 LO 755 HI 793 AVG 775 ES 38 SD 10.82

Best load with that bullet was 5.8 Grains VV N320.
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For any accuracy and stability from a revolver using cast bullets, the bullets must fit the gun. Measure the cylinder throats (slug or use ball mics/gauges or pin gauges, not calipers) and size, or purchase, the bullets the same diameter. You may want to slug the barrel to make sure the groove diameter is smaller than the cylinder throat diameter. This works in all 7 revolvers I own that shoot cast lead bullets...
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Keyholing would indicate the bullets aren’t large enough in diameter.
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Keyholing is also caused by insufficient pressure. Suggest you change to Unique. With the 240 gr. LSWC bullet, 6.5 gr. of Unique is a good starting point.
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I load two rounds for this cartridge.

1.) 250g SWC over 6.5g W231/HP38 for @ 850fps (Snapper)

2.) 250g SWC over 7.5g Unique for @ 900fps (Skeeter)

Both are excellent
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