CFE-P & 147gr Blue Bullets

[Kodiakco]

I bought a sample pack of Blue Bullets and loaded them up for use in my M&P 9mm ported 5" CORE. I wanted thoughts on my results and is it typical for my set up? As a reference I also shot Speer Lawman 147 gr TMJ across the Chrono. I am aware the jacketed can be loaded faster than lead.



Created: 02-02-2020 13:06:58
Description: 147 gr BLUE BULLETS 9MM 4.2 gr CFE-P COL 1.160
Distance to Chrono (FT): 12.50
Bullet Weight (gr): 147.000
Temp: 58 °F
BP: 1010.00 inHG
Shots
#     FPS        FT-LBS     PF
10    969        306.54     142.44   
9     974        309.71     143.18   
8     968        305.90     142.30   
7     956        298.37     140.53   
6     941        289.08     138.33   
5     958        299.62     140.83   
4     973        309.07     143.03   
3     969        306.54     142.44   
2     974        309.71     143.18   
1     972        308.44     142.88   
Average: 965.40
StdDev: 10.65
Min: 941
Max: 974
Spread: 33



Created: 02-02-2020 12:03:08
Description: 147 gr LAWMAN TMJ. 9MM
Notes 1: Skip in numbers due to Chrono errors.
Distance to Chrono (FT): 12.50
Bullet Weight (gr): 147.000
Altitude (FT): 185.0
Temp: 54 °F
BP: 1011.80 inHG
Shots
#     FPS        FT-LBS     PF
27    994        322.56     146.12   
26    989        319.32     145.38   
25    997        324.51     146.56   
24    990        319.97     145.53   
23    980        313.53     144.06   
22    1023       341.65     150.38   
21    986        317.39     144.94   
20    1010       333.02     148.47   
19    1005       329.73     147.74   
17    1044       355.82     153.47   
12    1029       345.67     151.26   
11    1030       346.34     151.41   
10    1016       336.99     149.35   
9     1024       342.32     150.53   
8     1021       340.32     150.09   
7     1025       342.99     150.68   
6     1019       338.99     149.79   
5     1014       335.67     149.06   
4     999        325.81     146.85   
2     1021       340.32     150.09   
Average: 1010.80
StdDev: 17.41
Min: 980
Max: 1044
Spread: 64


 



 




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[jester1985]

I’m getting standard deviations around 6-8 with titegroup and these same projectiles.

What OAL are you loading them too? I don’t bother doing to the ogive with pistol rounds I’ll admit.

[jester1985]

I’m also loading them for less than 900 FPS because that still makes power factor for my competitions.

[Kodiakco]

Thanks for the input. OAL is 1.160 and plunk test checked.

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[Nevada Ed]

A 147 coated can run from 1.16 to 1.12" OAL depending on the weapon or maker's data.

I did not have CFE for my coated bullets but did use it with the Speer and Berry 147 jacked bullets, a year later.

CFE with copper coated ran from 851 up to 955 in my 5" pistol.

You can get good accuracy from coated bullets at slow or fast fps and with short or long OAL's.
I had .356 to .358 dia. coated bullets to work with and they might or might not work in your weapons.

With the .358 dia. bullets a "Plunk test" is a must, to see if it fits the chamber correctly.

Good luck.

[Erich]

I find that when I use a Lee Factory Crimp Die it makes my handloads for semiautos fit the chamber just fine and seems to give them smaller spreads than the other way.

[Kodiakco]

The Blue Bullets are .355 and I do use the 4 die set by Lee.

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[Erich]

Originally Posted by Kodiakco

The Blue Bullets are .355 and I do use the 4 die set by Lee.

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Right on. FWIW, I've had a lot of fun these past few months with VV 3N38 and 147-grainers (I'm using HSTs) in the 9mm - amazing what that powder will do with that weight and still stay in CIP pressures.