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Old 02-02-2020, 07:00 PM
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I bought a sample pack of Blue Bullets and loaded them up for use in my M&P 9mm ported 5" CORE. I wanted thoughts on my results and is it typical for my set up? As a reference I also shot Speer Lawman 147 gr TMJ across the Chrono. I am aware the jacketed can be loaded faster than lead.



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Description: 147 gr BLUE BULLETS 9MM 4.2 gr CFE-P COL 1.160
Distance to Chrono (FT): 12.50
Bullet Weight (gr): 147.000
Temp: 58 F
BP: 1010.00 inHG
Shots
# FPS FT-LBS PF
10 969 306.54 142.44
9 974 309.71 143.18
8 968 305.90 142.30
7 956 298.37 140.53
6 941 289.08 138.33
5 958 299.62 140.83
4 973 309.07 143.03
3 969 306.54 142.44
2 974 309.71 143.18
1 972 308.44 142.88
Average: 965.40
StdDev: 10.65
Min: 941
Max: 974
Spread: 33



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Description: 147 gr LAWMAN TMJ. 9MM
Notes 1: Skip in numbers due to Chrono errors.
Distance to Chrono (FT): 12.50
Bullet Weight (gr): 147.000
Altitude (FT): 185.0
Temp: 54 F
BP: 1011.80 inHG
Shots
# FPS FT-LBS PF
27 994 322.56 146.12
26 989 319.32 145.38
25 997 324.51 146.56
24 990 319.97 145.53
23 980 313.53 144.06
22 1023 341.65 150.38
21 986 317.39 144.94
20 1010 333.02 148.47
19 1005 329.73 147.74
17 1044 355.82 153.47
12 1029 345.67 151.26
11 1030 346.34 151.41
10 1016 336.99 149.35
9 1024 342.32 150.53
8 1021 340.32 150.09
7 1025 342.99 150.68
6 1019 338.99 149.79
5 1014 335.67 149.06
4 999 325.81 146.85
2 1021 340.32 150.09
Average: 1010.80
StdDev: 17.41
Min: 980
Max: 1044
Spread: 64











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Im getting standard deviations around 6-8 with titegroup and these same projectiles.

What OAL are you loading them too? I dont bother doing to the ogive with pistol rounds Ill admit.
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Im also loading them for less than 900 FPS because that still makes power factor for my competitions.
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Thanks for the input. OAL is 1.160 and plunk test checked.

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A 147 coated can run from 1.16 to 1.12" OAL depending on the weapon or maker's data.

I did not have CFE for my coated bullets but did use it with the Speer and Berry 147 jacked bullets, a year later.

CFE with copper coated ran from 851 up to 955 in my 5" pistol.

You can get good accuracy from coated bullets at slow or fast fps and with short or long OAL's.
I had .356 to .358 dia. coated bullets to work with and they might or might not work in your weapons.

With the .358 dia. bullets a "Plunk test" is a must, to see if it fits the chamber correctly.

Good luck.
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I find that when I use a Lee Factory Crimp Die it makes my handloads for semiautos fit the chamber just fine and seems to give them smaller spreads than the other way.
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The Blue Bullets are .355 and I do use the 4 die set by Lee.

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The Blue Bullets are .355 and I do use the 4 die set by Lee.

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Right on. FWIW, I've had a lot of fun these past few months with VV 3N38 and 147-grainers (I'm using HSTs) in the 9mm - amazing what that powder will do with that weight and still stay in CIP pressures.
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