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What is your 9mm accuracy load?
I recently started shooting a Sig, p210, which is hands down the most accurate 9mm I have ever used. It is a bit ammo sensitive though. I have found that 3.8 grains of Bullseye and a 125 grain cast round nose with CCI primers seems to give me the smallest, ragged hole. It seems that everyone loads for reliability first and minuet of man accuracy these days but what is your load when you want to put all your shots on a dime?
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03-08-2020, 09:24 AM
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Thanks ... I just started to cast for 9’s and wanted a good starting load to try. I’ve only shot plated and jacketed 9’s. Favorite was ~4gr of TG ... will probably try the same for my coated cast.
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03-08-2020, 11:54 AM
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For low & slow 125rn I haven't found anything more accurate than Bullseye or Clays. When I want the best of both worlds, accuracy and higher velocity, those 125s get either 4.6gn Autocomp, or 4.7gn BE-86.
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03-08-2020, 12:48 PM
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125 Grain powder coated "cone" type bullet on top of a stout load of power pistol
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03-08-2020, 01:58 PM
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Lyman #358212 (150 grain round nose .38 Special bullet) sized .358" and conventionally lubed; 3 grs. Bullseye, but 4.5 grs. HS-6 also works fairly well. MV of both about 875.
I've tried many cast bullets in 9mm pistols in the last thirty or so years. This has been the most accurate bullet so far.
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03-08-2020, 03:57 PM
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4.0grs Bullseye, under ANY 115/124gr bullet, CCI/Federal primers, in ANY of the 9mm's I've owned through the years. 100% reliability, superb accuracy! The Sig 226 Elite was the standout of all my 9's, with this load. I attribute it to it's SRT trigger, ergos and sights.
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03-08-2020, 04:52 PM
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For me, 124gn. Nosler JHP. 6.3gn. 800X. 1250fps from a 4" Hk VP9.
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03-08-2020, 05:00 PM
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I bench a lot and so for 4.7 of N340 with a plated X- Treme 124 hp.
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I don't use 231/Hp38 in any caliber but my 9(Cz Shadow 1)4.3 of it under my own cast TC 125gr sized .3565.Reliable and accurate.
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03-08-2020, 05:51 PM
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I have one 9mm load I have settled on, 6.5 grs power pistol, assorted brass, fed small pistol primers, and 124 gr jacketed bullet. My hi power loves it
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03-08-2020, 08:42 PM
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For accuracy I shoot a Lee 105 grain SWC over 4.X grains of Unique sized .357 or .358. It is accurate but gives an occasional FTF that I haven't been able to adjust away. Works for range plinking.
I shoot this bullet often because my 6 cavity mold for it works so darn well. I can cast up a mountain of them in no time.
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CZ 75 Ly 358242 and 4 gr AA2. Alloy is ww and homemade lube.
Sorry I have not shot jacketed in a nine for a few decades.
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For me it depends on the pistol and then.......
the bullet weight and it's design and Dia. then .........
the primer and powder used, then..........
the speed that the load is pushed at in the weapon.
Some pistols are shooters, while some might only have two weights of bullets that might get a good group that make you happy.
Good loads to some is a golf ball size hole and to others inside a basket ball is GREAT at 15 yards !!
I don't shoot "Straight" lead any more, out of my auto pistiols.
Good shooting.
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03-09-2020, 01:28 AM
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Best load I've found for putting them all on a "dime": 115gr Precision Delta FMJ, 4.7gr Win244, WinSP, COL 1.140, 1149fps.
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03-09-2020, 09:30 AM
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125 HAP with 4.4 grains N340 is my 50 yard target load.
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03-09-2020, 10:02 AM
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My most accurate reload (thus far) in mt 4.5" XDm is:
115g Hornady HAP
4.4g Sport Pistol
1.080" OAL
My close second was:
115g Hornady HAP
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03-09-2020, 10:18 AM
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9mm Luger Favorite Loads - Accurate
Bullet - cast NOE 358-124-TC-GC , 124 grain truncated cone ( a 120 to 124 grain TC plain based bullet can also be used ) , sized .357, gas check installed .
Lubed with Lithium-Beeswax soft lube .
Powder Charges That Work Well :
5.0 grs. Unique @ 1125 fps - my favorite
5.0 grs HP-38 / W231 @ 1135 fps
4.3 grs. Red Dot @ 1083 fps
4.2 grs. Bullseye @ 1067 fps.
Seat bullets to pass the plunk test (9mm chambers vary greatly so test them ) and taper crimp.
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I posted this a few years back on coated bullets in my C9 pistol.
Some powder & loads did well but I had problems in my C9 with the coated bullets that were .358" in Dia., with "My" dies and cases.
However they are a lot nicer to work with than the old style lead bullets.
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03-09-2020, 12:55 PM
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It depends on the distance. Here's a recent 25 yard group (3/5/20) with coated bullets. It measures 1 3/8" and 3 rounds are touching:
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I see that you get a "Flyer" now and then also.
One reason that I did not keep shooting coated bullets.
Some of my test had a "Shotgun" pattern, which was a bummer, also.
Though better than lead, in my pistols plated bullets did a little better if groups
with all 5-10 rounds in the "Same area".
Just depends on the pistol and shooter.
Tight groups.
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Lucky you to have a SIG 210! I shot one recently and it was hands down the most accurate pistol that I've ever shot.
The most accurate 9mm in my stable is a Browning Hi Power and it is usually a 2" to 2 1/2" gun at 25 yards for a full magazine.
My considerations for an accurate load depend on:
1. Quality brass and not range pick up of mixed brand and quality. Different brands will have different neck tension on the bullet and thus a slightly different pressure curve and velocity. This might be nit picking, but it ends up providing better groups.
2. Well cast bullets. I prefer casting the RCBS truncated cone style sized to .358" with ALOX lube, but good quality commercially cast bullets with powder coating have started to change my mind.
3. I like the Aliant flake powders from Bullseye to Unique for the 9mm, although Winchester 231 (Hodgdon HP 38) has produced good ammo too.
4. I've not noticed any difference in primers, so I use CCI or Remington mostly.
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Lots of good ideas here. I'm going to have to paw around my odds and ends and try some different things. Sometimes we get caught up in doing things just because that's how we always did it. I have tried the 115 HAP's with Power Pistol and was really not impressed. 147's of any type don't seem to do well either. The lead 125's and Bullseye are the best so far by a lot. I am now trying 115 XTreme plated bullets with the same amount of Bullseye and they are showing some real promise. I will try to get some photos out this week end. Thanks for the ideas everyone!
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I used to shoot Hornady fully encapsulated 155 gr. fmj out of a fully accurized Beretta 92 FS. I got good groups when driving the bullet very fast with Alliant Power Pistol (around 6.2 grains). I also used new Starline brass. This was a good 50 yard combination. If I were looking for a good, accurate 50 yard combo now, I'd probably try some jacketed hollow point bullets and drive them fast.
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