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Old 03-25-2020, 02:28 AM
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Seems that ammo is in very short supply and I hear that reloading supplies are also hard to find and going up in prices. Any idea how long it will take for prices on reloading supplies to return to normal? I know there is no way to predict exactly, just a good guess is fine.
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Old 03-25-2020, 03:14 AM
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Hi Glenn, sorry to say that nothing is "normal" now. Assuming we get through this pandemic in a couple of months, we have the Presidential elections coming up and the past couple of elections were nowhere near normal as far as gun, ammo and component sales go.

It seems to me like it took a couple of years after the last election for the prices and availability of ammo and components to become reasonable/affordable to the level of pre-pandemic supply and demand.

I think the shortage and corresponding higher prices are not going to come down anytime soon, and if certain politicians get elected then this panic buying will seem like the "good ole days."

If events turn out pro-second amendment after the election I still think supplies will not keep up with demand for at least a couple of years; a lot of people will stockpile ammo and components whenever they can afford to do so (vowing "never again"). Then guess what? Time for another election and the cycle starts all over again.

Add into the mix another mass shooting and all bets are off--I think we can all predict what might happen if such were to occur.

So, to get to your question--I think maybe in a couple of years supply and prices might come close to the pre-pandemic levels, if we are really lucky. If prices come down and supplies increase, those with the determination and wherewithal to stockpile ammo and components will very likely do so.
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...little at a time. There are a lot of components you can get that may not be too high if this pandemic levels off in a few weeks.

Get a reloading book with a good 'how to' section in front if it.

The big Lyman Manual has a good section and lots of data. (not the Lyman Cast Bullet manual)

You'll need dies and shellholders for the calibers you need to reload.

Powder, primers and bullets. If you buy coated case bullets they are about the cheapest. Look at your manual to see which primers and powder you need. Of course you need to save, collect or buy brass cases. I started with 2 powders for pistol Bulleye and Unique. Then I started rifle so I got some 4798. When I got into magnum pistol, I got some 2499.

You can start with Lee measuring scoops, but you'll need to know exactly what the charge is at some point. For that you need a powder scale. I do fine with a little harbor freight digital

A reloading press - the cheapest way to go would be a Lee single stage. If you want you can go for a turret or a progressive press which are faster than a single stage. Progressive presses make one cartridge with every pull of the lever, but they are more complex. Think about how much you shoot to make a choice. You'll need a sturdy bench to mount the press on.

Powder measure. Sometimes I still use my Lee scoops weighed on a scale, but a powder measure is a good thing to have. You need to check some rounds on the scale anyway for consistency and safety. (Note - be sure to put a baffle in the hopper. It improves consistency)

A way to clean brass. I washed them in a bucket, but eventually got a vibrating tumbler.

Chamfer tool for the case mouths.

If you do rifle ammo your will need a caliper.

Loading block, powder funnel

There are other handy tools for primer posckets and hand primer tools instead of doing it one the press

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Once they go up they stay up until people stop buying .
When the stores are knee deep in expensive ammo they have a "SALE", and you get to buy ammo a little cheaper but not much .
By and large the prices will stay inflated as long as the ammo is selling and it never returns to pre-panic prices....NEVER !

Get a free catalog from Lee , Lee Hand Press is a handy thing to have.
You can reload sitting in your house at the kitchen/dining room table .
I have two for inside the house reloading .
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Fortunately I already had a good supply of reloading components before this took place. I had a couple of buddies call me earlier this week wanting to know if I had any extra supplies because they couldn't find any at the LGSs. I gave them what I though was reasonable they were happy and I still have more then enough. To your question, the shortage will last a few months beyond the current pandemic and there is no way of knowing when that will be.
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Over the last year or so Iíve been able to pick up lots of reloading supplies at gun shows from people who decided ďreloading wasnít economicalĒ anymore. Yesterday I loaded 150 rounds of 9mm with bullets I picked up at less than 3 cents per (bought 2000 for $50) last November. Iíve picked up a lot of 223 bullets and brass plus 7.62. Iíve been reloading for 45 years so Iíve accumulated lots of dies, presses, scales, etc.
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Over the last year or so Iíve been able to pick up lots of reloading supplies at gun shows from people who decided ďreloading wasnít economicalĒ anymore. Yesterday I loaded 150 rounds of 9mm with bullets I picked up at less than 3 cents per (bought 2000 for $50) last November. Iíve picked up a lot of 223 bullets and brass plus 7.62. Iíve been reloading for 45 years so Iíve accumulated lots of dies, presses, scales, etc.
Question are those presses mounted that close together are they just setting side by side for display?
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My biggest concern is that the Corona virus has increased the chance that Biden will win the election and that'll drive panic buying for much longer than the current surge we are seeing.
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Old 03-25-2020, 10:32 AM
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Seems that ammo is in very short supply and I hear that reloading supplies are also hard to find and going up in prices. Any idea how long it will take for prices on reloading supplies to return to normal? I know there is no way to predict exactly, just a good guess is fine.
For decades, I have always kept two+ years ahead in my hand loading supplies

These days I shoot WAY less I used to. Back in the years we did demos, I could run through 30,000 rounds of ammunition in the course of a year

When I moved last year, there were over 96,000 handgun projectiles in the loading room with enough primers and powder to handle them.

Boxed bullets are on the upper shelves, the bulk cases are on the bottom ones



Every-time there was a deal, I scraped and found the money to buy it. Fortunately, I also had a place to keep the stuff. I understand not everybody has that option, or a spouse that is understanding enough to put up with it

More than once, I got my fellow shooters together and bought an entire pallet of bullets at closeout. I had the pallet delivered to my companies loading dock (I ran the distribution facility) and all my shooting buddies came over and picked up their stuff.

The moral of this story is that if you waited for the crisis to start stocking up, you are alredy too late.

When this crisis passes, do not stop buying supplies. Figure out how much you shoot in a year and find a place to store two years of components.

Make friends at your range or shooting club. Organize group/club buys. You will never have to pay the high prices during a shortage again
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Been reloading since the late 70s' and accumulating ever since. I've completed an inventory to see anything I'm short of. I'm good, nothing needed. My biggest surplus is primers, just under 28,000.
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Seems that ammo is in very short supply and I hear that reloading supplies are also hard to find and going up in prices. Any idea how long it will take for prices on reloading supplies to return to normal? I know there is no way to predict exactly, just a good guess is fine.
Thereís no telling when panic buying and hoarding will end,but when it does,stock up because it will happen again as weíve seen over the last 20 years.People panic easily and get played over and over again...
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I was running a little low on sp primers and looked online last night and found none. I called my local hardware store 2 hours ago and they had some for $29.00 k.

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Question are those presses mounted that close together are they just setting side by side for display?
Yes, they are mounted that close together. The only clearance issue is for the two RCBS presses. I usually drop the loading handle down on the one to the left of the one I am using. Plenty of room to work the press. They are mounted on a frame and I can either use them standing up or sit on a high stool. This is probably the third iteration of my set up over the years.
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Thanks everyone for your replies. I'm hoping this corona virus scare is over soon. I will be ready to buy when and if the prices start coming down.
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I always buy in bulk whenever I see a sale. I have enough to get me through this crisis. It will end, as these things always do, hang in there .
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I'm pretty new to reloading and read all these posts from those who've been doing it for some time about how you were already stocked up before the current crisis started.

So my question is who bought up all the reloading supplies? Powder is pretty much unavailable anywhere now. If you were already well stocked you didn't just buy it in the last week or so, right? And I'm sure the people who are buying their first gun due to the panic aren't reloading, so who bought it all?

As mentioned I haven't been reloading long so my supplies aren't in as good a shape as I'd like. I'll have to ration my ammo on my range trips till I see supplies becoming more available. I hope that won't be too long. I would expect the reloading supplies to recover a lot faster than the factory ammo since there should be less demand for them.
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I'm pretty new to reloading and read all these posts from those who've been doing it for some time about how you were already stocked up before the current crisis started.

So my question is who bought up all the reloading supplies? Powder is pretty much unavailable anywhere now. If you were already well stocked you didn't just buy it in the last week or so, right? And I'm sure the people who are buying their first gun due to the panic aren't reloading, so who bought it all?

As mentioned I haven't been reloading long so my supplies aren't in as good a shape as I'd like. I'll have to ration my ammo on my range trips till I see supplies becoming more available. I hope that won't be too long. I would expect the reloading supplies to recover a lot faster than the factory ammo since there should be less demand for them.
There are almost 400 million firearms in private hands here in America. Obviously many Americans have more than one firearm

I would guess that there are at least tens of millions of hand loaders among those firearms owners.

Here on this Forum we probably have thousands of hand loaders

I would doubt that much more than a hundred or so of your fellow Forum Members here keep a large forward looking supply of components

It is all those remaining millions and millions of hand loaders that have gone into panic buying mode and emptied the shelves of the retailers

Hand loading supplies recover last, not first. All of the supplies manufactured are used to catch up the ammunition shortages first
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Yep, brass bullets and primers go to the manufacture of ammunition. Powders, the ones we use, catch up quickly as the ones we use are not used for ammunition, they may use something similar. For the last couple 'frenzies' not all powders on the shelves were totally gone and they were restocked fairly quickly coming from distributors. The Fin Feather Fur stores here in Ohio had low powder stock but never depleted.
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Cautionary true tale. Have been a reloader for over twenty years and shot at many weekly matches and meet lots of fine shooters and folks that reload.
Over the years, I've known several acquaintances, that had major physical and structural fire damage apparently due to reloading supplies that some how where ignited.
My personal story is that I've mostly keep my reloading table cleaned off and good shape and used an open face tall bookcase on the opposite side of the detached shop to store primers only, and that worked fine for me.
My 20 something son, re-arranged a work table in the shop with the thought to make more room to work on his projects, and was so focused on using a angle grinder and throwing sparks directed towards my primer storage bookcase and he saw stuff flying by his face that wasn't normal. I had just returned home and see him come out of the shop with his hair standing straight up and deer in the headlight look. I knew he was OK and nothing looked out of place or on fire. The sparks from the angle grinder did indeed set off most of a hundred count pkg of primers but the many thousands of other primers remained un disturbed. Since then we have relocated the primers and remodeled the work areas. We were very lucky this time but a scary event
Also another thing that I would like others to pay attention to, is the powder storage and think about using a gun powder storage fire rated box. I made a 1-1/8" thick plywood rolling box with a hinged top lid that nicely handles all my gun powders. Just want reloaders to be safe and think about how they store their supplies.
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In July 2015, 16 months before the upcoming 2016 election, I took pics of the powders at Fin Feather Fur's Camp Perry store on manufacturers row. The opposite wall was full of primers and bullets.
Their stores were well stocked too.
Unfortunately they're currently closed due to COVID. They didn't have to close, strictly voluntarily for employees and public.
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I have enough 9mm factory ammo but was going to start reloading some.
No primers and few bullets on the Web. Guess I waited too late.
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Last time it got this bad, 2012-13 you couldn't get stuff for about a year. Primers went first then powders, then bullets. For new guys, I feel your pain. For experienced reloaders, if you didnt restock to ridiculous levels after 2013, I dont feel sorry for you.
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That's when I started reloading. After standing in line for 9mm and coming up short once in the store or paying out the wazoo for .45 I said, "I ain't doing this again!" I bought a used SS press and dies from this site, got lots of great advice, dove in head first and the rest is history.

I'm happy to say I have accumulated a good stockpile of supplies and can last this out with no issues. Those talking about 9mm prices not being worth reloading don't remember what prices were like in 2012-13 and that's if you could even find ammo.

It feels good to go in a store and buy supplies if it's a decent price or walk out if it's not, knowing I can go home and crank out some ammo on the 550.
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Count me in the "well-stocked" but I could always find room for more group! I made a deal with myself several years ago. I planned to retire and when I did I wanted all my reloading equipment and supplies to be in great shape. So I planned and kept an eye on prices, a few bargains along the way and a couple times might have paid a little too much but not much.

What I learned is even when prices get high, like primers and powder did last time, keep looking and asking people. The idea of a larger group buy is good advice. At one time I was locating for 2-3 people depending on their needs. It helps if you can say, hey what can you do on 4 cases of SP primers and 3 8lb jugs of powder.

My best advice is to NOT panic buy. You will sometimes buy something you don't want (I have done that) and unless you need something immediately, time is on your side. Not everyone wants to jack prices up. Save your stimulus check and when things get back to normal (there is no such thing as normal, it is a setting on a dryer) then buy like a crazy man and tell your wife what a good deal you got because it was on sale!
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....to put your reloading components and the finished product. My drill press serves as a two level starting point, a little space for empty cases and enough behind the press for a container. I have a bucket on the floor for used primers and if I'm having a high production run, like 9mm, I may have a small bucket for finished cartridges. I used to pull the trash up under the press to catch primers, but sometimes good components ended up in there and digging for it is time consuming.

I was unfortunate enough to start up reloading again in 2012. In a few months there was Sandy Hook and the worst shortage i had been through. I learned there were a couple in the years that I wasn't reloading so much that I'm glad I missed.
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Have enough supplies to weather it through, problem is there are no open ranges around me. EO closed them for a month !
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My local (home operated) GS yesterday had all the powder and primers and more than I could afford.

And I live in the middle of a National forest so I go daily to test my loads.

My county(big county) has NO Covid-19 cases, so far all good.
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I got into bullet casting years ago. I have at least one mold for every caliber. I have several hundred pounds of various alloys. I have Unique, and other powders. I have primers. I shoot very, very little factory ammo.
This virus thing is nothing more than an asphalt-filled pothole to my shooting activities.
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Seems that ammo is in very short supply and I hear that reloading supplies are also hard to find and going up in prices. Any idea how long it will take for prices on reloading supplies to return to normal? I know there is no way to predict exactly, just a good guess is fine.
The last time we had high prices and shortages was due to political reasons. In my area it took maybe 2 years to get availability back, and another 2 to see prices start to decline.

This time it looks more like it will be short lived. We worried about toilet paper and such, but now after only 2 weeks everything is plentiful again.

My LGS (where i buy all my reloading supplies) went out of business 3 months ago, so basically Cabelas is my only option.
Ten days ago after reading about the ammo shortage I called them and they were out of everything. Although I needed nothing, just for curiosity I did an online search. To my amazement, one of my past vendors had the primers and powder I usually buy, and IT WAS ON SALE! Wholly mackerel. I put a 10 year supply of each flavor in my cart, and it was in stock.!!! The e-mail came today that it shipped Fedex yesterday.

Yay!!

My prediction is that IF there is going to be another shortage, it will start to ramp up November 5th. Or not.
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max503 said all. I have 14 cases of assorted primers, at least three 50 cal ammo cans filled with jacketed bullets, assorted powder to load all the bullets I'll shoot for the rest of my life. I learned my lesson during President Clinton's shortage. President Obama won on Tuesday night, I ordered 80 K primers Wednesday morning.

At various gun shows I have seen $20 bargains, bought all that was on the table. Courtesy also got me several deals because I helped dealers move inventory from parking lot to inside the show. 15 minutes of my time saved me $60 on my primer / powder purchase. The dealer said, "I can't sell what isn't on the table. I'll easily make up your discount."

This afternoon 1K of 45 acp 200 gr swc will get loaded with my bullets cast (as in FREE bullets) last Saturday.
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There are almost 400 million firearms in private hands here in America. Obviously many Americans have more than one firearm

I would guess that there are at least tens of millions of hand loaders among those firearms owners.

Here on this Forum we probably have thousands of hand loaders

I would doubt that much more than a hundred or so of your fellow Forum Members here keep a large forward looking supply of components

It is all those remaining millions and millions of hand loaders that have gone into panic buying mode and emptied the shelves of the retailers

Hand loading supplies recover last, not first. All of the supplies manufactured are used to catch up the ammunition shortages first

And unfortunatly there are those who just bought of supplies and ammo just to profit on them. Resellers who will gouge prices. They do it all the time and do it on a lot of products.
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I'm pretty new to reloading and read all these posts from those who've been doing it for some time about how you were already stocked up before the current crisis started.

So my question is who bought up all the reloading supplies? Powder is pretty much unavailable anywhere now. If you were already well stocked you didn't just buy it in the last week or so, right? And I'm sure the people who are buying their first gun due to the panic aren't reloading, so who bought it all?

As mentioned I haven't been reloading long so my supplies aren't in as good a shape as I'd like. I'll have to ration my ammo on my range trips till I see supplies becoming more available. I hope that won't be too long. I would expect the reloading supplies to recover a lot faster than the factory ammo since there should be less demand for them.
I just bought 16 lbs of powder because I was running low. Every two years I buy enough powder to load for two more years. I was planning on buying the powder before the pandemic, it was just a coincidence. I didn't buy any primers so you can't blame me for the primer shortage.

If it helps I was in the same situation as you during the last shortage. That one lasted for several years. This one will probably be worse.
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I'm pretty new to reloading and read all these posts from those who've been doing it for some time about how you were already stocked up before the current crisis started.

So my question is who bought up all the reloading supplies? Powder is pretty much unavailable anywhere now. If you were already well stocked you didn't just buy it in the last week or so, right? And I'm sure the people who are buying their first gun due to the panic aren't reloading, so who bought it all?

As mentioned I haven't been reloading long so my supplies aren't in as good a shape as I'd like. I'll have to ration my ammo on my range trips till I see supplies becoming more available. I hope that won't be too long. I would expect the reloading supplies to recover a lot faster than the factory ammo since there should be less demand for them.

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And unfortunatly there are those who just bought of supplies and ammo just to profit on them. Resellers who will gouge prices. They do it all the time and do it on a lot of products.
Guess it is the American way
I think that's the major cause of shortages. Profiteer resellers and just-in-time buyers who will pay those jacked up prices. I'm not bad mouthin the buyers because a lot of people are running on a month by month basis financially but they fall prey to the profiteers every time.
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I'm pretty new to reloading and read all these posts from those who've been doing it for some time about how you were already stocked up before the current crisis started.

So my question is who bought up all the reloading supplies? Powder is pretty much unavailable anywhere now. If you were already well stocked you didn't just buy it in the last week or so, right? And I'm sure the people who are buying their first gun due to the panic aren't reloading, so who bought it all?

As mentioned I haven't been reloading long so my supplies aren't in as good a shape as I'd like. I'll have to ration my ammo on my range trips till I see supplies becoming more available. I hope that won't be too long. I would expect the reloading supplies to recover a lot faster than the factory ammo since there should be less demand for them.
The same companies who make reloading supplies manufacture ammo.

Powder Valley, MidwayUSA, Natchez all have a variety of powder and primers available if a person "needs" something. I bought 6 lbs and 7,000 primers about 3 weeks ago because a couple of powders I wanted were on sale. Nothing is on sale now and the only primers left are the more expensive variety, but they are still there for the time being.
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Iíve been reloading for 45 years so Iíve accumulated lots of dies, presses, scales, etc.
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Yes, itís kinda full. I counted last year and had 90 sets of dies. Mind you some I have doubles and triples of like 357, 9mm and 45ACP. I do have some odd ones like 357 automag and 45 wildey mag. Over the years Iíve traded off some guns but never sold or traded any dies. I also have shotshell reloaders.
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Not into hording, buy I do buy in bulk when I see a sale or a good price, all winter and last summer some reloading suppliers had good sales, that's when I purchased , just good economics.
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I just received an order from Midsouth today that I placed last week of 12 lbs of powder and 4500 primers. None of that was hoarding, just picking up some bigger jugs of powder that I like plus some more small pistol primers that were for a decent price.
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I just bought 16 lbs of powder because I was running low. Every two years I buy enough powder to load for two more years. I was planning on buying the powder before the pandemic, it was just a coincidence. I didn't buy any primers so you can't blame me for the primer shortage.

If it helps I was in the same situation as you during the last shortage. That one lasted for several years. This one will probably be worse.
2012-13 shortage really was just the one year. Supplies & prices came back in 2014. Will this be worse, maybe. The new gun buyers dont know how much to buy or how a shortage affects them. Those of us that went thru 2012-13 have been keeping their supplies up, so maybe.
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I think that's the major cause of shortages. Profiteer resellers and just-in-time buyers who will pay those jacked up prices. I'm not bad mouthin the buyers because a lot of people are running on a month by month basis financially but they fall prey to the profiteers every time.
Why if you are a serious shooter, you dont go month to month.
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Not even 'year to year', I've been doing 'decade to decade'. Actually by 2 decades. Mid 70s' to mid 90s' then mid 90s' to about 2015. I still have bullets, primers, and powder I acquired in the 70s'. I finished my inventorying and based upon the bullets I have and allowing for at least doubling the amount of primers and powder needed for those bullets, I'm gonna be selling off about 15,000 primers and 13 1lb containers of powder. I think I've planned well.
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I use about 8 lb of CFEpistol in 11 months. I recently added a caliber so consumption will go up a little. I am down to about 2.5 pounds and I sent my LGS an email asking about availability as I was down to a 6 to 8 week supply. He replied that he added a 8 lb of CFEp and he would set aside 10k SP primers.

I only buy from him once or twice a year but he knows he is my powder and primer source. I really don't need that many primers as I have more than a 2 year supply. I have other powders I could use but I have grown fond of CFEp.
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Not even 'year to year', I've been doing 'decade to decade'. Actually by 2 decades. Mid 70s' to mid 90s' then mid 90s' to about 2015. I still have bullets, primers, and powder I acquired in the 70s'. I finished my inventorying and based upon the bullets I have and allowing for at least doubling the amount of primers and powder needed for those bullets, I'm gonna be selling off about 15,000 primers and 13 1lb containers of powder. I think I've planned well.
I dont plan more than a couple years out. Over 40y of shooting & hunting things can change a lot. I used to be big into CAS, then hunting local & world wide, now idpa. So if I had layed in a decades worth of stuff, It would be sitting idle. I still have maybe 1000rds of 45 colt from the early 90s when I stopped shooting CAS. I shoot maybe 100rds a year of it just because. Primers though cross all caliber lines so if you buy anything, buy primers.
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I've been handloading since the 80's. I used to buy a box of bullets, a pound of powder, 1000 primers or with 22 LR, just a brick as I saw fit. These days, I buy in bigger batches. 1k bullets, 4 or 8 lbs kegs of powder, 5000 primers or cases of 22LR. I shoot a lot and have settled on some favorites so it does simplify things. I buy in big lots just because I don't want to fuss around getting supplies bit by bit. It will all get used in due time and I don't need to sweat the shortages.
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There is a lot of good wisdom in this thread. I think simplifying the number of cartridges/calibers you need is a great idea unless you are pretty well off. Although hand loaded ammunition is almost never used in a crime, those of us who are older remember the attempts in the 1980s to control hand loading components. While there is no harm in having "shooting friends", I would be limiting who I told about my hobby. Federal and state red flag laws could be one election cycle away. This shortage could turn into a long term problem so being prepared requires long term thinking.
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I've got enough that I don't have to order for a long time if ever, 75 now. Only thing I figured I was short of was cigars so I ordered more of those now. NEVER run out of cigars.
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I've always said that once you find a favorite load combination, you should buy each component in bulk. This generally accomplishes two things: saves money due to volume discounts/shipping; keeps everything in the same lot numbers (to mitigate accuracy variation). When you eventually have to restock, you hope the next batch of components shoots as well even if it's to a different POI.
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I have plenty of powder and primers and brass, running low on bullets. all the usual places are all have back orders. I did find some at Titian reloading, they had bulk 45 acp.
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