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Old 06-24-2020, 09:25 PM
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Anyone use one of these ? I know they're not high end or top quality , but do they work & are they accurate ?
Care to comment if you have/had one or on powder scales you use & would recommend . Looking for reasonably priced units that will do the job .
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I own & have used the RCBS 5-0-5 scale. Works great.

Also used electronic scales. I check them vs the RCBS.
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Old 06-24-2020, 09:58 PM
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I have a Lee scale and kept it when I gave my RCBS 505 to a friend. (I also have an RCBS Chargemaster 1500 dispenser/scale.) Not a thing wrong with any of them.
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I've found the adjustments on the Lee scale to be difficult to see and to replicate. That being said the accuracy is fine, if you can get the dang thing set where you want it. But I am much much way happier with an only slightly more expensive RCBS.
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The Lee Safety Scale occupies a very interesting space. It is extremely accurate and fairly durable also, and considering it’s price point, even a shoe string budget could NEVER claim they cannot afford a scale. This scale is far better than the junk Chinese digital scales that might work and might not. A beam scale relies on gravity, not the care & skill of a 25-cents an hour slave laborer.

With that said, it’s not easy to read, it’s not a “fun” scale to use and all the other quality beam scales offer a better experience.

Accurate? For dead sure certain.
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I'm about to give away my rcbs 505 to a friend who wants to start loading......
I keep my Frankford Arsenal digital close to my setup and it's my go to, for weighing .
The digital scale is just too easy and accurate to use, I keep it for simplicity's sake. I just used it yesterday.
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I've owned two. Nope they are not the fastest, but they are accurate and repeatable. The main "problem" is with users that can't/won't learn to read a vernier scale. One big plus is the poise is lockable, set it, lock it and the setting will not change, won't move/change if the beam or poise is bumped. I saw an advertisement for the scale weighing a piece of tissue paper so I tried it and I successfully weighed a piece of Kleenex smaller than a postage stamp...
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I have used a Redding scale for nearly 40 years, still as good as it ever was. Very sensitive and repeatable, never had any problems with it. Not sure if that brand even still exists.
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It is still available, but pricey. I think I paid about $20 for the one I have which is exactly the same as shown. It is all American made. I highly recommend it as a lifetime purchase.



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The Lee scale and trust it and you can't beat the price. Oly problem I had with it was you need to test the swing to make sure it isn't binding. The old one broke and they were so cheap I bought another one for a back up.
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I have an old Pacific beam scale that I bought new about 1975, and a RCBS that I purchased used 3-4 years ago. I used the RCBS scale yesterday, (6/24/20), along with my Pacific Multi Power press to load a few .243 shells. All of them work great, it's me I worry about.

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I have one. Found out pretty quickly that they cannot be placed on the same bench as the reloading press. The vibration can cause the zero to shift slowly over time. IMO that is NOT safe. Another problem is the method for setting the scale, it is distinctly fussy.

My primary scale is now an RCBS 505 because the zero does not shift and setup is simple.
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Fussy, challenging readout, slow, limited range, yes. Accurate and repeatable results, affordable and made in the USA, yes.
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Old 06-25-2020, 10:23 AM
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I've had 2 RCBS 5-0-5 Scales (still have 1) and still have/use an older Pacific scale (before purchased by Hornady). I tried helping a buddy who had one of the Lee scales get it set up. We both gave up and he bought a new digital. I don't personally like them, and I use a lot of Lee products. YMMV :-)
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I have 5 scales, two antique oil dampened,one Lee SS, one Lyman/Ohaus D5, and one RCBS 5-10. But the OP's question was about a Lee Safety Scale...

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Old 06-25-2020, 12:10 PM
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Throw it out!. Folks know I am a LEE fan boy but not the scale.
Does it work? Yes
Is it accurate? Actually yes
Is it easy to use? NOOOOOOOO!


It is a PITA. I gave one away.


It is a 3 star rating and it is cheap.



A scale is the most important tool in reloading. Even a cheap digital is easier than the Lee. Get a balance beam and you are good forever.


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I have tossed a Lyman scale and sold a RCBS and Hornaday scale. I have an electronic powder dispenser and a Lee scale. The Lee is the most accurate I have found from 0.1 to 100 gr with my test weights. Yes you have to pay attention when setting it. Yes it uses simple processes that require fine tuning. I like it and use it often when doing ladder loads.

I would not trust using any kind of powder dispensing system with out a scale.
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Because of the limited 100 grain capacity I use this as a powder scale only. When I got mine I used a set of check weights every 10 grains from 0 to 50 grains and it was right on at all of them.

In use I take the beam off, position the poise and lock it in place, put the beam back on, put the ball bearing in the correct place, put the correct amount of check weights in the pan, put the pan on the scale, and zero the scale if necessary. Then it is only a matter of adjusting the powder measure to get the correct amount of powder thrown.

The other thing I did was to mark the column by the end of the beam so that I could tell of I was 1/2 grain over or under or a full grain over or under.
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By now you know the Lee Scale works, and every aspect of its ergonomics just plain sucks. It will be as repeatable as most other beam scales if your patience lets you tolerate the ergonomics.

Because it will challenge your patience, I'd suggest spending a bit more for any of the beam scales marketed by other name-brand reloading companies . . . Hornady, Redding, Dillon, etc.
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I have one. Found out pretty quickly that they cannot be placed on the same bench as the reloading press. The vibration can cause the zero to shift slowly over time.
I found that out the hard way and got a lot of experience with pulling bullets and also learned to double check the zero each session.

While the Lee seems to be accurate it is a pain to use so I bought a cheap digital scale for every day use and use the Lee to spot check that the digital isn't lying to me.
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I have used a RCBS 505 scale for years with no issues. I did have the RCBS 10-10 scale and wish I still had it.
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I see a lot of "reported" problems I've never encountered and some I've never heard about. "Ergonomics" is a personal thing only as I am able to adjust set and use my Lee scale without lifting it off the bench. Just because one or two people cannot handle/adjust a tool doesn't mean the tool is "unergonomic" and besides, the tool is used when sitting on a bench/table and not a hand held tool. Once set/zeroed, my Lee scales have never changed zero/setting even when my CD is playing really loud and the bass from my 14" speakers vibrate the windows, or normal press just 18" away...

I even stumbled on a magnetic dampening trick that works quite well; I place a rare earth magnetic under the pan, on the bench, and it slows the settling as well as my RCBS 5-10...

I'm careful about what I tell a newer reloader on any forum. A bad-mouthed, biased (often unfounded) opinion can skew a new reloaders thinking about perfectly good equipment, tools and components, often costing more set up money and the loss of perfectly good tools, and is a disservice to him...

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One advantage of my Redding scale is that it has built-in magnetic dampening. If I am loading rifle ammunition in any quantity I use the Lyman 1200 DPS powder dispenser with electronic scale, i.e., you set the load and it automatically dispenses and weighs it. I usually check every fourth or fifth charge with my Redding beam scale just to make sure the Lyman electronic scale is working OK. It always has.
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The LEE scale is the only balance beam scale I have used, so I don't know how it compares to others, but I found it fiddly and not very consistent. It would take forever to damp. If then took the pan off and and back on, it didn't consistently give the same reading. I much prefer the scale on my Chargemaster 1500.
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I still use my Lee Safety scale...it is as accurate as my RCBS scale. You can’t go wrong with Lee equipment.
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The Lee scale is a king sized PIA to use but having checked its accuracy with RCBS check weights. It’s dead on and more accurate than my RCBS and Lyman scales. The only draw back is it’s so sensitive I have to make sure there are no breezes or I don’t exhale near it.
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I use the RCBS 505, because it is easy and accurate... Lee PIA to use.

SUGGESTION: I always "tape" the scale down to my bench when reloading. Keeps it from changing the leveler AND stops any stray powder granules from sneaking up under the scale's legs/feet.

Also, when loading rifle cartridges for accuracy, I use a Redding Trickler.

Other than that, I do like the LEE Classic Turret, Lee Dies, and Lee Adjustable Charge Bar(always within <0.1gr.).
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The LEE scale is the only balance beam scale I have used, so I don't know how it compares to others, but I found it fiddly and not very consistent. It would take forever to damp. If then took the pan off and and back on, it didn't consistently give the same reading. I much prefer the scale on my Chargemaster 1500.
....but it sure doesn't act like it. I found it best used with my Redding trickler (great piece of gear) and like I said before, you have to make sure that it is swinging freely. I haven't used my new one yet. Oh, and you can't beat the price.

PS: I also find that you have to be careful of parallax between the pointer and the balance mark.
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Fussy, challenging readout, slow, limited range, yes. Accurate and repeatable results, affordable and made in the USA, yes.
Lee equipment is made to be affordable for us impecunious folks that can put up with some hassle to have something that works until you can afford to 'step up'. I used the Lee for a LONG time until they made DECENT t diginal scales cheap enough to afford.

Kind of like Lee Hand Loading tool. If you haven't got the dough for a press, dies, shellholder, it just works fine. I used those for a few years, too, until I was able to accumulate enough equipment to streamline my operation. I still have a single stage press. No shame in that, but I can't afford a progressive. I have more time than money.
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Throw it out!. Folks know I am a LEE fan boy but not the scale.
Does it work? Yes
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Is it easy to use? NOOOOOOOO!


It is a PITA. I gave one away.


It is a 3 star rating and it is cheap.



A scale is the most important tool in reloading. Even a cheap digital is easier than the Lee. Get a balance beam and you are good forever.


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But....it wasn't until a few years ago that they made cheap digital scales that worked well. I heard so many stories about them conking out after a short time. Anyway, because of that, I used the Lee scale for a long time and would still use it for a back up.
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Does it work, sure, but its fussy & easy to mess up. Imo, just spend a bit more. If you cheap on anything, it should not be the way you measure powder.
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I started out with a Lee safety scale that came with my Lee classic turret kit. Good starter scale, a little fussy like others have said. I picked up a 505 used and would compare the two against test weights. Both were dead on. Later picked up a Dillon electronic scale and used that in conjunction with the 505. I recently sold all my Lee stuff and the new owner seems happy with it. Lee makes some good starter reloading equipment in my opinion.
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I use the Lee Classic Turret for most pistol/revolver cartridges, and the Pacific single stage for rifle. The other day I loaded some .243 shells on the Pacific press and the RCBS 10-10 beam scale and a powder trickler to handle the powder measurement.

I have a Duke's mixture of reloading equipment, including RCBS, Pacific, Lyman, Lee, Hornady, and who knows what other brands. It works for me and has for about 45 years or so, (who's counting anyway), and that's all that matters.

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In the early '70s,when I started reloading,I bought a Lyman Ohaus which served me well.Wanting to check if it was still god after an improvised trip to the floor,I bought a Lee to countercheck it.
They both indicate exactly the same.
I keep using the old Lyman because I'm used to it(I keep my old things a loooong time,that reassures my wife)but I would trust the Lee as well.
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I've never used the Lee scale, but I'd much rather use an inexpensive beam scale like the Lee than a digital.

Personally I still use the old Redding scale that my dad bought in the mid-fiftys. Still working great after 65+ years.

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